Zompist Bboard Again

jal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:55 pm

Ahzoh wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:29 pm/ˈɑː.ni/ "1sg,NOM/ sounds mellifluous but /ˈɑː.mɑ/ "2sg.NOM" and /ˈɑː.sɑ/ "3sg.NOM" sound absolutely strenuous to say.

Apart from "ani" being Hebrew, I have no qualms with "ama" or "asa". You may find them unpleasant, but you cannot be serious they're "strenuous".

I am serious, I feel like I have to put in more articulatory effort to say those words compared to /ˈɑː.ni/ and /ˈɑː.ti/

Also they're all formed by combining the morpheme ā- with the subject suffixes, just as the negative agreement pronouns are form by the morpheme tuC- and the subject suffixes.

Ahzoh wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:14 pm

jal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:55 pm

Ahzoh wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:29 pm/ˈɑː.ni/ "1sg,NOM/ sounds mellifluous but /ˈɑː.mɑ/ "2sg.NOM" and /ˈɑː.sɑ/ "3sg.NOM" sound absolutely strenuous to say.

Apart from "ani" being Hebrew, I have no qualms with "ama" or "asa". You may find them unpleasant, but you cannot be serious they're "strenuous".

I am serious, I feel like I have to put in more articulatory effort to say those words compared to /ˈɑː.ni/ and /ˈɑː.ti/

when I try saying them, I expend as much movement in my mouth saying /ti/ as I do saying /sa/ though if its too much irritant, just switch to /si/ instead.

and /ma/ and /mi/ are no more effortful than /ni/

Also they're all formed by combining the morpheme ā- with the subject suffixes, just as the negative agreement pronouns are form by the morpheme tuC- and the subject suffixes.

and thats a bad thing?

keenir wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:46 pm

Ahzoh wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:14 pm

jal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:55 pm
Apart from "ani" being Hebrew, I have no qualms with "ama" or "asa". You may find them unpleasant, but you cannot be serious they're "strenuous".

I am serious, I feel like I have to put in more articulatory effort to say those words compared to /ˈɑː.ni/ and /ˈɑː.ti/

when I try saying them, I expend as much movement in my mouth saying /ti/ as I do saying /sa/ though if its too much irritant, just switch to /si/ instead.

and /ma/ and /mi/ are no more effortful than /ni/

I suppose it is just me then

The vocalic pattern of the subject affixes is -ni, -ma, -ta/-sa, -ti, -man, -tan/-san so that there is no conflation between the third person singular and the 1st person plural, otherwise i would have made them all end in -i just like the oblique suffixes.

I also thought about changing the third person suffixes to a different consonant, but coronals like /t/ just have a lot of adjacental compatibility with other consonants that I can't find with, say, /p b k g s x/.

Any one here good with mediawiki code (not Lua) and template stuff?