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Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:08 am
by masako
sasasha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:08 pm next: symmetry
Amal:

gurédan - of equal measure; symmetrical

next: shy; timid

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:42 pm
by sasasha
masako wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:08 am next: shy; timid
Ainyn:

jøcnantsayra - a shy or timid person or creature (lit. "doorway shadow" or "cave-entrance shadow")

Next: overload, overwhelm

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 4:03 pm
by evmdbm
Vedreki
ulemottaq - to overwhelm (literally under-push; the Vedreki live on an archipelago so the image is of a ship being sunk, pushed under the waves)

Next to crown (as in "The king will be crowned in June.")

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:55 am
by sasasha
Ainyn

ineingwaláa - to reign, lit. "to know government". Back-formed perfective nineingwaláa - to succeed to the throne, lit. "to find government".

I also coined najynáa - to put on a crown, which however has no specific relationship with monarchic rule, and irnekanartoa - lit. "to see glass-work", used to describe a soon-to-be monarch nearing accession to the throne, or more generally of anyone who maneuvers themselves closer to the centre of royal power, which is associated with glass.

Next interrupt

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:21 am
by Man in Space
CT hesgöm /hès.ʕǿm/ [hèz.ʕǿm] 'to interrupt, to block'
ndaíl /n̩.θà.íl/ [n̩.dðɹà.íl] 'to interrupt, to break narrative flow, to bulldoze over (in speech)'

Next: sleep apnea

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:25 am
by sasasha
Ainyn senimineim - sleep apnoea, lit. "sennifín-ism", after a parasitic swarming fly species that carries a sleeping sickness.

Next to evaporate, evaporation

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 5:25 am
by foxcatdog
Epic Letic: ʃɛ̃ʃɛ̃ũ or ʃũʃɛ̃ũ “to evaporate” probably a partial reduplication of an unattested ʃɛ̃ũ "to dry" which would be cognate with or sũũ in 2 more politically important dialects. Ultimately from the root *ciwã which ultimately derives from *kʲiwam which combines the word for water and an unknown prefix seen also in *kʲize "felled horn" from *ze "antler/horn/spike" which is reflexed in rere "bull animal" and ren "bone" which later semantically shifts to blood > vitality > virility (by now wẽ or mẽ) (note in many dialects it stays just as blood the original "bone" meaning is only attested as a borrowing to the north where its cognate is de "trap"). Also *ze is reflexed in the languages southern relative as *je "trap" *seje "scale" (which is just its reduplicated reflex), *seni "horn" and *seseni "spike" which are the unreduplicated and reduplicated forms + *ni a nominal to nominal intensifier.

Next: Bottom/Solution
This is in the sea metropolis dialect t́ɛ̃ "solution" from original tœr “buttock” and t́ɔ̃ɔ̃ "buttock now rather literary or poetic" from original tœ̃œ̃n “tail” both of which derive from the same root *tońa ultimately from *donja “bottom” which is often reflexed as an adposition in other branches. Also see nɛnɛ or nɛjø "bottom also a preposition meaning under" deriving from possible reduplication of a suffix -nɛ "down" or the same suffix + -ɣø "end" through the more expected form is nɛhø

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:50 am
by hwhatting
sasasha wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:55 am Next interrupt
Tautisca
díríchten "disjoin, interrupt": Prefix dí(r/s)- "dis-, un-, asunder"; yuchten "join, link; harness"
antarflóditen "butt in, chip in, interrupt": Prefix antar- "inter-, between"; flóditen "speak, talk"
antauditen "interfere, meddle": Prefix an- "in, into"; tauditen "poke around, probe, investigate"

Next: breath

EDIT: I see that more words were posted while I was working on this. Feel free to go with their proposed new words. :-)

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:01 am
by sasasha
OK, I'll do them all :)

Ainyn
mpin - knot (*N-pin - tied)
mpina - to knot (tr.), to tie; to bind
mpingwaláa (+gen) - to discover the truth; to get to the bottom of something; (excl.) Eureka!, also ngwaláa (lit. "to discover the knot")
mpingwalote - solution ("that which reveals the knot")
pingwaláa (+gen) - to understand something ("to know the knot", back formed imperfective of mpingwaláa; double meaning "to know the document")
pin - document, book (*pin - coarse thread; to tie; to thread together, to bind)
pelu - bottom, rump, end
waćam - breath
waćmáa - to breathe (intr.)

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Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:42 pm
by foxcatdog
cae “to breathe” could be nominalised as caewa but you would probably use maí wind+dim for this.

jarne "to inspire" most likely from jarɛ "bestow" + a diminuitive ultimately from ja "blessed" which descends from *ɣ́a and ultimately *ɣja

Next: fell, chop down

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:12 pm
by Travis B.
foxcatdog wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:42 pm cae “to breathe” could be nominalised as caewa but you would probably use maí wind+dim for this.
I don't think that's the meaning that was intended...

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:26 pm
by foxcatdog
Travis B. wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:12 pm I don't think that's the meaning that was intended...
It means breath.

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:13 pm
by masako
foxcatdog wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:42 pm next: fell, chop down
Kala:

heta - fell; chop down (a tree)

next: to restore; to recover

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:42 am
by foxcatdog
repa "to recover" literally "place anew"
recy "to restore" literally "make anew"

Also attested dialectally is remaa "to revisit" from maa "stroll"

Next: Come
This is cuu in Letic.

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:42 am
by hwhatting
foxcatdog wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:42 am Next: Come
Tautisca:
bummíten "come"
abbunten "come, approach"
I'm still working out the differences in usage between those two. :-)

Next:
apple tree (or comparable fruit tree)

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:55 am
by foxcatdog
juu pa “apple tree” ultimately from juu "apple" of unknown entymology and pa "tree" from *paka.

Next: Dog
cɛ̃n dialectal kʷɛ̃n from *kʷamni through the intermediary *kʷãni. Used in various derived words referring to Nikeeya.

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:55 pm
by Imralu
foxcatdog wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:55 amNext: Dog
Resurrecting this because this is one of the best threads of all time.

Hibuese:
mbingu [ˈmbiŋu] "dog" from mbi "mammal" and ngu "hunter", because, to the Hibuese people, the primary importance of dogs is as hunting animals.

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Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:45 am
by masako
Imralu wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:55 pm Next: annoy, annoying, annoyance
Amal:

nip r. bother; annoy; disturbance

nipa n. annoyance; disturbance [nip]
nipek vd. bother; annoy; disturb [nip]
nipin n. jerk; bothersome person [nip qin]

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Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:10 pm
by foxcatdog
akiaa “to explain” from aki “to understand” from OA *ake from Catkin
Next: amakani “to cherish” from PA amaka “to bring joy” + the reversal marker ni

Re: Lexicon Building

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:25 am
by masako
foxcatdog wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:10 pm Next: “to cherish”
Amal: amámek - cherish; adore; treat with affection

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