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Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:28 am
by Vilike
The presence of unt makes me think of Sinti.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:46 pm
by Karch
Vilike wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:28 am The presence of unt makes me think of Sinti.
It is indeed Sinti! Your turn.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:39 am
by Vilike
Lámi-ti-laa lameecci bataʾanuu-hu ʾanga gujjooni fakkʾoocci ʾuullaani ʾubbo-ʾi-rra keeseeni ʾanga gujjooni tʾappʾ tʾappʾ ʾaʾeeni téesu-hu kʾawu riccu ʾala waaššeeni torrooni ʾanga hoobe ʾaazi wareennu. Kannoʾoota waréennu-ra mati-ta ʾikkuni lámi-ti ʾangaacci milikkʾoocci tʾené-gga-ni kʾeeltaʾeeni bešiiha ʾaasseennu. Máti-ti ʾubbuʾnaani fankaššeeni ʾanga hoobe ʾaazi wareemmaacci hikka bargameeni ʾalappʾeennu bešiiha ʾonti cʾubbuttʾe ʾijjisiiššoon-ke yeenu. Hitti gooteeni kʾullaappʾeeta ʾalappʾeennu.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:46 am
by Raphael
Hittite?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:54 am
by bradrn
Ik? The word-final superscripts seem familiar.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:53 pm
by Karch
Very obviously Cushitic. Kambaata?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:27 am
by Vilike
You are so close!

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:34 am
by bradrn
Alaaba?

EDIT: Actually, I now think it’s more likely to be Kʼabeena. (Not that it matters: Alaaba and Kʼabeena seem to be mutually intelligible, and both are regularly treated as dialects of Kambaata.)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:35 am
by Vilike
That's a Kʼabeena text, alright! Go for it.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:51 am
by bradrn
Well, I feel it really should be Karch who gets the credit, but alright, here you go:
I⁵⁵ hau¹³ a³¹ zɔ³¹, i⁵⁵ hau¹³ a³¹ va³¹, pa³¹ ma⁵⁵qau⁵⁵ nie⁵⁵ vlei³¹ ku⁵⁵ʑi³¹. A⁵⁵ ɣəɯ³¹ zəɯ¹³ ie¹³ a⁵⁵ təɯ³¹ ɭɔ³¹, səɯ³¹ pia⁵⁵ la⁵⁵ pia⁵⁵ la⁵⁵ pai³¹ huai³¹ qhəɯ³¹ təɯ¹³ ɔ³¹. Səɯ³¹ pia⁵⁵ qhəɯ³¹ thəɯ¹³ dəɯ⁵⁵ ɭɔ³¹ vəɯ¹³, nie³¹ thəɯ¹³ dəɯ⁵⁵ ɭɔ³¹ vəɯ¹³, sui³¹ tau¹ i⁵⁵ na⁵⁵ phiau³³, səɯ¹³ pia⁵⁵ kau⁵⁵ plaɯ³¹ zei³¹, phai³³ tu³¹ ni⁵⁵khe¹³ suan¹³ ni⁵⁵khe¹³, tɕie³¹kuo⁵⁵ phaiu³³ thəɯ¹³ ɣa³¹ ləɯ³¹, tu¹³ ɣa³¹ ɣa³¹ ləɯ³¹ vəɯ¹³, la⁵⁵ pai¹³ huai³¹ ʑiu¹³ təɯ¹³ ɔ³³.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:45 am
by Pabappa
bradrn wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:51 am Well, I feel it really should be Karch who gets the credit, but alright, here you go:
I⁵⁵ hau¹³ a³¹ zɔ³¹, i⁵⁵ hau¹³ a³¹ va³¹, pa³¹ ma⁵⁵qau⁵⁵ nie⁵⁵ vlei³¹ ku⁵⁵ʑi³¹. A⁵⁵ ɣəɯ³¹ zəɯ¹³ ie¹³ a⁵⁵ təɯ³¹ ɭɔ³¹, səɯ³¹ pia⁵⁵ la⁵⁵ pia⁵⁵ la⁵⁵ pai³¹ huai³¹ qhəɯ³¹ təɯ¹³ ɔ³¹. Səɯ³¹ pia⁵⁵ qhəɯ³¹ thəɯ¹³ dəɯ⁵⁵ ɭɔ³¹ vəɯ¹³, nie³¹ thəɯ¹³ dəɯ⁵⁵ ɭɔ³¹ vəɯ¹³, sui³¹ tau¹ i⁵⁵ na⁵⁵ phiau³³, səɯ¹³ pia⁵⁵ kau⁵⁵ plaɯ³¹ zei³¹, phai³³ tu³¹ ni⁵⁵khe¹³ suan¹³ ni⁵⁵khe¹³, tɕie³¹kuo⁵⁵ phaiu³³ thəɯ¹³ ɣa³¹ ləɯ³¹, tu¹³ ɣa³¹ ɣa³¹ ləɯ³¹ vəɯ¹³, la⁵⁵ pai¹³ huai³¹ ʑiu¹³ təɯ¹³ ɔ³³.
well here we go again with the /pl/ ..... i doubt this is right but i have to say it .... is it Hmong? If not Hmong itself, it is a Miao-Yao language?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:10 am
by Karch
Is it Sino-Tibetan?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:19 pm
by Nortaneous
Tones: 55 13 31 (33)
No prenasalized stops
/ɭ/, uvulars, /vl/, voiced fricatives

Looks Kra-Dai - some weird Gelao variety. Zoulei?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:25 pm
by bradrn
Nortaneous wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:19 pm Tones: 55 13 31 (33)
No prenasalized stops
/ɭ/, uvulars, /vl/, voiced fricatives

Looks Kra-Dai - some weird Gelao variety. Zoulei?
Yes. Your turn!

(Let me restrain myself from complaining yet again about how easily my languages are guessed…)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:40 pm
by Nortaneous
My first guess was Northern Tai, but I couldn't find any Northern Tai languages with the right properties. So I figured it could be some weird Gelao variety, searched around a little, discovered that Zoulei (which I already had a grammar of) was a Gelao variety, and checked that. vl- looks pretty un-ST, and Hmong-Mien seemed unlikely - not enough vowels or tones.

Anyway:
təskar mətəzaj mənamakre brastʃhə ndə ʃə ndo. kəʃmo cətə khrəmkhraj wungy təpa kəni khrəmthak kaptʃat ŋos. skuʒoxɲo təɟy salok ongy khrusxsol kamdzat. sten kəpa ormiɲo kənarizəmzəm kə ndəsasten. taro kə kormbaŋ ɲiton kanəthuks ŋos. tərmi kasat kanəzdukpa. təla kəɲes kə kanthen oxʃhet kəkte. əʃni zdem ndəmej, kəjom ndəŋos. tərmu cətə əmopa kəmej wuʒa pja kəmej mərcaŋ ŋos.

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:47 pm
by bradrn
Nortaneous wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:40 pm Anyway:
təskar mətəzaj mənamakre brastʃhə ndə ʃə ndo. kəʃmo cətə khrəmkhraj wungy təpa kəni khrəmthak kaptʃat ŋos. skuʒoxɲo təɟy salok ongy khrusxsol kamdzat. sten kəpa ormiɲo kənarizəmzəm kə ndəsasten. taro kə kormbaŋ ɲiton kanəthuks ŋos. tərmi kasat kanəzdukpa. təla kəɲes kə kanthen oxʃhet kəkte. əʃni zdem ndəmej, kəjom ndəŋos. tərmu cətə əmopa kəmej wuʒa pja kəmej mərcaŋ ŋos.
I must applaud you: you have managed to find a language which seems to have practically no distinguishing characteristics whatsoever. Even so, let me take a guess: Breton?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:49 pm
by Nortaneous
bradrn wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:47 pm I must applaud you: you have managed to find a language which seems to have practically no distinguishing characteristics whatsoever. Even so, let me take a guess: Breton?
no

Breton doesn't have initial ŋ, does it?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:18 pm
by bradrn
Nortaneous wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:49 pm
bradrn wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:47 pm I must applaud you: you have managed to find a language which seems to have practically no distinguishing characteristics whatsoever. Even so, let me take a guess: Breton?
no

Breton doesn't have initial ŋ, does it?
True, that. (I hadn’t noticed the word-initial /ŋ/.)

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:49 am
by Creyeditor
Is it a Slavic language?

Re: Name That Language!

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:45 am
by cedh
Nortaneous wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:40 pm
təskar mətəzaj mənamakre brastʃhə ndə ʃə ndo. kəʃmo cətə khrəmkhraj wungy təpa kəni khrəmthak kaptʃat ŋos. skuʒoxɲo təɟy salok ongy khrusxsol kamdzat. sten kəpa ormiɲo kənarizəmzəm kə ndəsasten. taro kə kormbaŋ ɲiton kanəthuks ŋos. tərmi kasat kanəzdukpa. təla kəɲes kə kanthen oxʃhet kəkte. əʃni zdem ndəmej, kəjom ndəŋos. tərmu cətə əmopa kəmej wuʒa pja kəmej mərcaŋ ŋos.
Is it spoken in Southeast Asia?