Zompist Bboard Again

In re-reading the grammar of Flaidish, I noticed a few errors and/or questions:

- In the section on verb forms, the description of the habitual form labels the indefinite forms as definite, and vice versa. (I can repost this correction in Almea if necessary.)

- Under “Nominalizers”, the suffix -chet appears to normally shorten the root vowel (if the root ends in a consonant, as per the usual phonological rules), but the sample text shows fool ear -> foolchet earwax, rather than folchet.

Later, under “Adjectivizers”, the suffix -ick shows floom -> floomick, but juur -> jurick; I was not sure whether the latter shortening was an error or an irregularity, although jurick appears in a later example and in the lexicon.

-At the end of the section “Yes/no questions”, in the set of three example sentences, ʔyd teen “at night” appears to be missing from the middle sentence, although it is still given in the translation below.

-In the example about the ʔubeer, Footnote 3 refers to the gloss 3sS-4s0, but the gloss for the sentence in question has 3sS-3s0 instead, when it should be the former. In addition, Footnote 7 has a glottal stop instead of the number “7”, both in the superscript and in the footnote itself (unless the latter was done deliberately, given the plethora of glottal stops in Flaidish).

Thanks for the corrections! The typos should be fixed now.

I also took the opportunity to put all the cited sentences and orthographic examples into the Flaidish alphabet.

The orthographic variations you mention are (purposely) irregular.

Another stray typo: The Flaidish transcription of the sentence Baub kroog ʔy chunt doesn't display the glottal stop correctly.

the page consistently useds /ʋ/ for short <u>, but this ipa symbol indicates a consonant; is this supposed to be /ʌ/?

Emily wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:20 am the page consistently useds /ʋ/ for short <u>, but this ipa symbol indicates a consonant; is this supposed to be /ʌ/?

It's /ʌ/ on the picture, but it's in a row with /ɪ/, so I'd always assumed it was /ʊ/ – I feel like an actual [ʌ] or thereabouts would be noteworthy enough to mention in the text, and it would have to be lost on the chart for that. Maybe /ɤ/, with /ʌ/ used (in the picture) for Englishiness? But then why would ⟨ʋ⟩ be used in the text?

It's supposed to be /ʊ/.

ʌ is properly a back vowel in IPA, but it's used in the US (I can't say about the UK) for a more central vowel. You can probably get phoneticists in a fistfight by asking if [e] is an allophone of /ʌ/ in a given English dialect.

Edit: Page updated.

I was looking at the extended examples in the Flaidish lexicon, and noticed an error with the link to the full Jeerio story. The link in the grammar leads to a Not Found error page, although the link on the main Virtual Verduria page remains functional.

zompist wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:44 pm ʌ is properly a back vowel in IPA, but it's used in the US (I can't say about the UK) for a more central vowel.

I remember reading something at one point that said there's a conceit among English-language lexicographers that there's no such thing as a stressed schwa, when the STRUT vowel is often just that.