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Random opposites
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:53 pm
by zompist
I was just looking at a Hausa grammar, and learned that "he" is shī. (And pronouns do have a gender distinction.)
Can you think of other words like this? That is, language pairs where roughly the same phonetic word has opposite meanings.
Greek ναί 'yes' comes close, cf. Czech ne or Swedish nej.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 4:58 pm
by Travis B.
You can say 'hello' in Hungarian by saying szia, pronounced almost identically to NAE see ya (mind you, you can also say 'goodbye' by saying szia as well).
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:55 pm
by kosen444
There are words in English that can mean their exact opposite – like oversight, which is either careful watching or a mistake; sanction, which can be to allow or to punish; or dust, which is either to add fine particles or to take them away
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:39 pm
by Darren
Georgian has mama "father" and deda "mother"
French inhabité "uninhabited"
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:54 am
by hwhatting
Time to wheel out the classics, which I like especially because they're from closely related languages, not accidental look-alikes from different language families:
Russian urod means "ugly person" while Polish uroda means "beauty".
Russian zapominat' means "remember", while Polish zapominać means "forget".
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:27 am
by Raphael
kosen444 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:55 pm
There are words in English that can mean their exact opposite – like oversight, which is either careful watching or a mistake; sanction, which can be to allow or to punish; or dust, which is either to add fine particles or to take them away
Oh, good ones!
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:05 am
by zyxw59
Polish tak "yes"
Indonesian tak "no"
Combined with the fact that the Polish and Indonesian flags are the same but upside-down
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:30 pm
by alice
The first and second person plural pronouns in Swedish are vi and ni respectively, and are the other way around in a certain IAL.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:19 pm
by Raphael
Somewhat belated addition:
zompist wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:53 pm
Greek ναί 'yes' comes close, cf. Czech
ne or Swedish
nej.
"neh" also means "no" in some colloquial variants of German.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:36 pm
by Travis B.
Raphael wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:19 pm
Somewhat belated addition:
zompist wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:53 pm
Greek ναί 'yes' comes close, cf. Czech
ne or Swedish
nej.
"neh" also means "no" in some colloquial variants of German.
Words starting with /n/ loom large for negatives in good portions of IE.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:40 pm
by Raphael
Travis B. wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:36 pm
Words starting with /n/ loom large for negatives in good portions of IE.
Such as, for instance, the word "negatives" itself.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:11 am
by Richard W
zompist wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:53 pm
I was just looking at a Hausa grammar, and learned that "he" is
shī. (And pronouns do have a gender distinction.)
Can you think of other words like this? That is, language pairs where roughly the same phonetic word has opposite meanings.
And Welsh for 'she' is
hi.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:32 am
by bradrn
Richard W wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:11 am
zompist wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:53 pm
I was just looking at a Hausa grammar, and learned that "he" is
shī. (And pronouns do have a gender distinction.)
Can you think of other words like this? That is, language pairs where roughly the same phonetic word has opposite meanings.
And Welsh for 'she' is
hi.
In Hebrew too. (Where, for good measure, ‘he’ is
hu, cf. ‘who’.)
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:52 am
by linguistcat
Travis B. wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:36 pm
Raphael wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:19 pm
Somewhat belated addition:
zompist wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:53 pm
Greek ναί 'yes' comes close, cf. Czech
ne or Swedish
nej.
"neh" also means "no" in some colloquial variants of German.
Words starting with /n/ loom large for negatives in good portions of IE.
ない nai in Japanese also means isn't/not.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:43 am
by WeepingElf
Travis B. wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:36 pm
Raphael wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:19 pm
Somewhat belated addition:
zompist wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:53 pm
Greek ναί 'yes' comes close, cf. Czech
ne or Swedish
nej.
"neh" also means "no" in some colloquial variants of German.
Words starting with /n/ loom large for negatives in good portions of IE.
Yes - it is inherited from PIE. English
un- and Greek
a(n)- also have this origin.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:44 pm
by kosen444
One that comes to mind is the Japanese "hai" meaning "yes," while in Romanian, "hai" is more like "come on" or "let’s go." Not exact opposites, but still feels funny when you hear it the first time.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:40 pm
by /nɒtɛndəduːd/
in english, to "abandon something" is to leave something without intention of returning to it, but to "work at something with abandon" is to work at something feverishly.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:57 pm
by Glass Half Baked
One Korean word for yes is [ne]. What's funny is that another word for yes (the list goes on) is [je]. So occasionally you'll hear English speakers joke "what say you, yei or nei?" and the joke is they're both the same.
Re: Random opposites
Posted: Thu May 08, 2025 11:35 am
by Mornche Geddick
kosen444 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:55 pm
There are words in English that can mean their exact opposite – like oversight, which is either careful watching or a mistake; sanction, which can be to allow or to punish; or dust, which is either to add fine particles or to take them away
And cleave, which means to cling together or break apart.