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"Black" versus "black"

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:18 am
by alice
Could someone explain to this non-American how "Black" differs in meaning from "black"?

Re: "Black" versus "black"

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:44 am
by zompist
I assume you're referring to the way news organizations etc. have started calling people Black instead of black.

I suggest googling "capitalizing black" and reading some (more than one) of the explanations from various publications.

Re: "Black" versus "black"

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:39 am
by kadmii
Black is a racial category (e.g. Black Americans, Black British, etc)

black is a color term

Re: "Black" versus "black"

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:51 am
by alice
zompist wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:44 am I assume you're referring to the way news organizations etc. have started calling people Black instead of black.

I suggest googling "capitalizing black" and reading some (more than one) of the explanations from various publications.
Yes, I am. I wish I'd thought of that. :oops:

Re: "Black" versus "black"

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:54 am
by Linguoboy
See also: “Deaf” vs “deaf”.

Re: "Black" versus "black"

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:31 am
by Moose-tache
Wait, did people used to use lowercase terms for ethnicities? I can't believe I never noticed that before. I thought it always had to be capitalized, like "Lithuanian."

EDIT: using lowercase "deaf" doesn't strike me as odd, since deaf is an actual property that a person can have, while Black only works as an arbitrary label, i.e. a signifier for something that has nothing to do with being literally the color black. But when saying "The Deaf," the capital makes more sense.

Re: "Black" versus "black"

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:43 am
by Travis B.
I tend to write names referring to races and like as lowercase unless they are derived from a toponym but names referring to ethnicities and nationalities as uppercase, so I write white, black, and deaf, but Asian, Indian, European, Native American, Chinese, Japanese, and so on.

Re: "Black" versus "black"

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:40 pm
by Linguoboy
Moose-tache wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:31 amEDIT: using lowercase "deaf" doesn't strike me as odd, since deaf is an actual property that a person can have, while Black only works as an arbitrary label, i.e. a signifier for something that has nothing to do with being literally the color black. But when saying "The Deaf," the capital makes more sense.
"deaf" is an actual property while "Deaf" is a cultural identification.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaf_culture

Re: "Black" versus "black"

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:52 pm
by Moose-tache
Linguoboy wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:40 pm
Moose-tache wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:31 amEDIT: using lowercase "deaf" doesn't strike me as odd, since deaf is an actual property that a person can have, while Black only works as an arbitrary label, i.e. a signifier for something that has nothing to do with being literally the color black. But when saying "The Deaf," the capital makes more sense.
"deaf" is an actual property while "Deaf" is a cultural identification.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaf_culture
Right, exactly. I think only the latter sense can apply to ethnic signifiers like Black.