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by 2+3 Clusivity
Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:03 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: On syllabification
Replies: 25
Views: 82073

Re: On syllabification

(1) /sɪ.tɪŋ/? <>lax vowels aren't normally found in open syllables. agreed for me <>Same as (2), a sequence like this would usually give me [/sɪt. tʰ ɪŋ/] or [/sɪʔ. tʰ ɪŋ/] (2) /sɪt.tɪŋ/? No; the medial consonant is definitely not geminated. <>Same as above. (3) /sɪt.ɪŋ/? No; this is definitely not ...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:05 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: What have you accomplished today?
Replies: 803
Views: 405017

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Interesting topics! Do you have some references I can read through? Sure. Recently took [A LOT] of time to [attempt to] straighten out valency, valency adjusting methods including voice Well, a lot of ink and pixels have been spilled/typed on this subject, and I cannot really hope to do better than...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:24 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: What have you accomplished today?
Replies: 803
Views: 405017

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Recently took A LOT of time to finally sit down, straighten out valency, valency adjusting methods including voice, and to some degree semantic roles. Spent a bit of time reading about egophoricty and egophoric marking which is worth looking up if you haven't read about it. Finally, read a bit about...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:48 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: What do you call ...
Replies: 413
Views: 1022844

Re: What do you call ...

In German, it is usually called Asphalt , but the technical term - I once worked in a road planning office - is Schwarzdecke , which literally means 'blacktop'. Maybe it is the same in English? asphalt is also called blacktop in English. I know. What I asked about is whether in English, asphalt is ...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:05 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
Replies: 805
Views: 550708

Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn

<album> as /'(ʔ)æl.bləm/. .... still doesn't sound right to me without two /l/s. Sigh. Kinda remind me of /j/ and /w/ copying across syllables in Avestan. I have a similar thing - "only" becomes "olnly." Oh man.... yeah, I'm doing that too, but no one's pointed it out.
by 2+3 Clusivity
Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:39 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Indo-European language varieties
Replies: 136
Views: 77406

Re: Indo-European language varieties

1. What is the origin of the duals in -u in Sanskrit, Lithuanian and Proto-Celtic? The handbooks I know do not reconstruct such duals for PIE. The numeral *Hoḱte-h 3 (u) '8' has a fossilized dual suffix *-h 3 (u) which I guess it's related to the Caucasian numeral '2', although a deeper research wo...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:57 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
Replies: 805
Views: 550708

Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn

<album> as /'(ʔ)æl.bləm/.

.... still doesn't sound right to me without two /l/s. Sigh.

Kinda remind me of /j/ and /w/ copying across syllables in Avestan.
by 2+3 Clusivity
Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:58 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2158666

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Zju wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:52 pm Are there languages that have phonemic syllable boundaries? I.e. is there a language that distinguishes between /'uf.ljuf/ and /'u.fljuf/?
Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affricate ... _sequences
by 2+3 Clusivity
Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:56 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2158666

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

... I should warn you that you will quite probably find these books disappointing, especially concerning the verbs. Verbs in Kartvelian work quite similarly as in PIE: each of the three screeve series ("present", "aorist", "perfect") uses a different stem, and there ar...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:21 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2158666

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

So, my Google-fu is not helping me out today. Are there any basic grammar sketches of Old Georgia and/or Proto-Kartvelian? Basically looking for declension, screeve, etc. tables.

Think there are some in Georgian and/or Russian, but I'm hoping to find something in English, German, or (maybe) French.
by 2+3 Clusivity
Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:15 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Pirãha based conlang?
Replies: 3
Views: 4806

Re: Pirãha based conlang?

You could probably also add

Lexicon: borrowing basic/core vocabulary for neighboring trade language/lingua francas (e.g., pronouns).
by 2+3 Clusivity
Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:43 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2158666

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

... [tl;dr] forgive me, I am not trying to take over the misc forum, but typed out some research for myself and felt like it was hopefully worth sharing. No, it's the link in the last two words of the banner's text! Oh gotcha ... I had read that, but thought I was missing something given that those ...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:41 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2158666

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

The Wiktionary definition is buried in the banner notice Ah, I see. There was an attempt to modify the Wikipedia article to include their definition, and there is now disagreement on whether it is good enough to say 'inherited from Sanskrit' without lying, even if one must hold one's nose. If one i...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:14 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2158666

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

The problem I am wrestling with is that a lot of Pali entries on the English Wiktionary say 'From Sanskrit...' or 'Inherited from Sanskrit'. The word 'Sanskrit' is an automatically generated link to the wikipedia page, and we don't have an easy way of changing that link. Wiktionary has redefined th...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:50 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2158666

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Does Pali descend from Sanskrit? In particular, is it legitimate to say of most Pali words that they are inherited from Sanskrit? This is chiefly a question about what the term 'Sanskrit' includes and excludes in plain English. From most of my research: no. Pali and most other modern Indo-Aryan lan...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:17 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Cat sounds as human equivalents
Replies: 8
Views: 7183

Re: Cat sounds as human equivalents

Probably need something like /ʔ/ /ɬ, ç, x, χ, ħ, h/(with voiced ingressive and voiceless eggressive variants; eggressives might also contrast aspiration; the velar and uvulars might contrast fricatives versus affricates) /ʀ̥, ʜ, a/ (voicing contrast as above; probably all ~vocoids can take breathine...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:56 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Reconstructing ancient US English
Replies: 42
Views: 40225

Re: Reconstructing ancient US English

/*monT/ > Rich-mond, Ver-mont, mont-pelier, mont-ana, mont-gomery .... probably researchers can guess something with hills/mountains with the exception of Montgomery. Richmond seems to be a bit of an outlier but it's one of the fewer items in final place. /*con/ > con-cord, con-necticut, Wis-con-sin...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:38 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2158666

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

What the hell is this sound? For the life of me I can't figure it out. At the very least it's voiceless and lateral. I'm fairly confident that it's velar as well, and perhaps the ejective velar lateral fricative? It seems to have a lot of articulatory force behind it. And, most strangely, I can dis...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:18 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2158666

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

At the same time, it bothers me that people, at least in conlanging land, seem to insist on considering these things actual verbs or nouns rather than words that are in more than one word class, one of them being adpositions. Not quite sure I am getting your quip. I get it that entries can appear i...
by 2+3 Clusivity
Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2158666

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I seem to remember reading a while ago about a language (Mesoamerican, I think) with exactly two adpositions. I’ve been trying to find it again, but to no avail. Does anyone have any idea which language that could be? Not sure about in Mesoarmerica, but I recall Tok Pisin is claimed to only have tw...