Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
here's my own attempt at this:
Ēn Mihiṡā
/m n/ ⟨m n⟩
/mː nː/ ⟨mm nn⟩
/p b t d k g/ ⟨p b t d k g⟩
/pː tː kː/ ⟨pp tt kk⟩
/ts tʃ cç/ ⟨c ċ ç⟩
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ ⟨f v þ đ s ṡ h ğ⟩
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ ⟨ff þþ ss ṡṡ hh⟩
/w l j/ ⟨w l y⟩
/wː lː jː/ ⟨ww ll yy⟩
/a e i o u/ ⟨a e i o u⟩
/aː eː iː oː uː/ ⟨ā ē ī ō ū⟩
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ ⟨â ê î ô û⟩
/la˥kt͡ʃawoːːs a˥ɣi o˥sumeːθːe at͡ʃuː˥maː aː˥msalkːuːl/
/fi˥vot͡ʃawna su˥msalkːuːl aː˥mjuːmaː se˥mlaːː mjeː˥θːe/
/mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k/
Lakċawôs aği osumēþþe aċūmā āmsalkkūl.
Fivoċawna sumsalkkūl āmyūmā semlâ myēþþe.
Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak.
Ēn Mihiṡā
/m n/ ⟨m n⟩
/mː nː/ ⟨mm nn⟩
/p b t d k g/ ⟨p b t d k g⟩
/pː tː kː/ ⟨pp tt kk⟩
/ts tʃ cç/ ⟨c ċ ç⟩
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ ⟨f v þ đ s ṡ h ğ⟩
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ ⟨ff þþ ss ṡṡ hh⟩
/w l j/ ⟨w l y⟩
/wː lː jː/ ⟨ww ll yy⟩
/a e i o u/ ⟨a e i o u⟩
/aː eː iː oː uː/ ⟨ā ē ī ō ū⟩
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ ⟨â ê î ô û⟩
/la˥kt͡ʃawoːːs a˥ɣi o˥sumeːθːe at͡ʃuː˥maː aː˥msalkːuːl/
/fi˥vot͡ʃawna su˥msalkːuːl aː˥mjuːmaː se˥mlaːː mjeː˥θːe/
/mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k/
Lakċawôs aği osumēþþe aċūmā āmsalkkūl.
Fivoċawna sumsalkkūl āmyūmā semlâ myēþþe.
Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak.
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and from this day all nature hails
the future Keeper of the Scales!"
"May all here present witness be!
Alyen of Dúr is bound to me
and from this day all nature hails
the future Keeper of the Scales!"
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
I got bored. Here's another go:
Ēn Mihiša
/m n/ ⟨m n⟩
/mː nː/ ⟨mm nn⟩
/p b t d k g/ ⟨p b t d k g⟩
/pː tː kː/ ⟨pp tt kk⟩
/ts tʃ cç/ ⟨c č cx⟩
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ ⟨f v ŧ đ s š h y⟩
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ ⟨ff ŧŧ ss šš hh⟩
/w l j/ ⟨u l i⟩
/wː lː jː/ ⟨w ll j⟩
/a e i o u/ ⟨a e i o u⟩
/aː eː iː oː uː/ ⟨ā ē ī ō ū⟩
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ ⟨aa ee ii oo uu⟩
Lakčauoos ayi osumēŧŧe ačūmā āmsalkkūl.
Fivočauna sumsalkkūl āmiūmā semlā miēŧŧe.
Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak.
Ēn Mihiša
/m n/ ⟨m n⟩
/mː nː/ ⟨mm nn⟩
/p b t d k g/ ⟨p b t d k g⟩
/pː tː kː/ ⟨pp tt kk⟩
/ts tʃ cç/ ⟨c č cx⟩
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ ⟨f v ŧ đ s š h y⟩
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ ⟨ff ŧŧ ss šš hh⟩
/w l j/ ⟨u l i⟩
/wː lː jː/ ⟨w ll j⟩
/a e i o u/ ⟨a e i o u⟩
/aː eː iː oː uː/ ⟨ā ē ī ō ū⟩
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ ⟨aa ee ii oo uu⟩
Lakčauoos ayi osumēŧŧe ačūmā āmsalkkūl.
Fivočauna sumsalkkūl āmiūmā semlā miēŧŧe.
Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak. Mullak.
Last edited by Lērisama on Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
LZ – Lēri Ziwi
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Een Mihhicaa
/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <aa ee ii oo uu>
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ <aaa eee iii ooo uuu>
/m n/ <m n>
/mː nː/ <mm nn>
/p b t d k g/ <pp p tt t kk k>
/pː tː kː/ <ppp ttt kkk>
/ts tʃ cç/ <ss cc yyy>
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ <ff f þþ þ s c hh h>
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ <fff þþþ sss ccc hhh>
/w l j/ <v l y>
/wː lː jː/ <w ll yy>
/la˥kt͡ʃawoːːs a˥ɣi o˥sumeːθːe at͡ʃuː˥maː aː˥msalkːuːl/
/fi˥vot͡ʃawna su˥msalkːuːl aː˥mjuːmaː se˥mlaːː mjeː˥θːe/
/mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k/
Lakkccavooos ahi osumeeþþþe accuumaa aamsalkkkuul.
Ffifoccavna sumsalkkkuul aamyuumaa semlaaa myeeþþþee.
Mullakk. Mullakk. Mullakk. Mullakk. Mullakk. Mullakk. Mullakk.
/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <aa ee ii oo uu>
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ <aaa eee iii ooo uuu>
/m n/ <m n>
/mː nː/ <mm nn>
/p b t d k g/ <pp p tt t kk k>
/pː tː kː/ <ppp ttt kkk>
/ts tʃ cç/ <ss cc yyy>
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ <ff f þþ þ s c hh h>
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ <fff þþþ sss ccc hhh>
/w l j/ <v l y>
/wː lː jː/ <w ll yy>
/la˥kt͡ʃawoːːs a˥ɣi o˥sumeːθːe at͡ʃuː˥maː aː˥msalkːuːl/
/fi˥vot͡ʃawna su˥msalkːuːl aː˥mjuːmaː se˥mlaːː mjeː˥θːe/
/mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k/
Lakkccavooos ahi osumeeþþþe accuumaa aamsalkkkuul.
Ffifoccavna sumsalkkkuul aamyuumaa semlaaa myeeþþþee.
Mullakk. Mullakk. Mullakk. Mullakk. Mullakk. Mullakk. Mullakk.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/eːn mixiʃaː/ <een mikhishaa>
/m n/ <m n>
/mː nː/ <mm nn>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g>
/pː tː kː/ <pp tt kk>
/ts tʃ cç/ <ts ch ky>
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ <f v th dh s sh kh gh>
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ <ff tth ss ssh kkh>
/w l j/ <w l y>
/wː lː jː/ <ww ll yy>
/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <aa ee ii oo uu>
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ <a'a e'e i'i o'o u'u>
pitch unwritten
/la˥kt͡ʃawoːːs a˥ɣi o˥sumeːθːe at͡ʃuː˥maː aː˥msalkːuːl. fi˥vot͡ʃawna su˥msalkːuːl aː˥mjuːmaː se˥mlaːː mjeː˥θːe. mulːa˥k/
Lakchawo'os aghi osumeetthe achuumaa aamsalkkuul.
Fivochawna sumsalkkuul aamyuumaa semla'a myeetthe.
Mullaak. (x7)
alternatively let's treat the geminates as another series:
/eːn mixiʃaː/ <Een mixhicaa>
/m n/ <m n>
/mː nː/ <mh nh>
/p b t d k g/ <b mb d nd g ng>
/pː tː kː/ <p t k>
/ts tʃ cç/ <ts j gy>
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ <vh v rh r z c xh x>
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ <f q s ch h>
/w l j/ <w l y>
/wː lː jː/ <wh lh yh>
/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <aa ee ii oo uu>
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ <ah eh ih oh uh>
Lagjawohz axi ozumeeqe ajuumaa aamzalkuul.
Vhivojawna zumzalkuul aamyuumaa zemlah myeeqe.
Mullag.
/m n/ <m n>
/mː nː/ <mm nn>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g>
/pː tː kː/ <pp tt kk>
/ts tʃ cç/ <ts ch ky>
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ <f v th dh s sh kh gh>
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ <ff tth ss ssh kkh>
/w l j/ <w l y>
/wː lː jː/ <ww ll yy>
/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <aa ee ii oo uu>
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ <a'a e'e i'i o'o u'u>
pitch unwritten
/la˥kt͡ʃawoːːs a˥ɣi o˥sumeːθːe at͡ʃuː˥maː aː˥msalkːuːl. fi˥vot͡ʃawna su˥msalkːuːl aː˥mjuːmaː se˥mlaːː mjeː˥θːe. mulːa˥k/
Lakchawo'os aghi osumeetthe achuumaa aamsalkkuul.
Fivochawna sumsalkkuul aamyuumaa semla'a myeetthe.
Mullaak. (x7)
alternatively let's treat the geminates as another series:
/eːn mixiʃaː/ <Een mixhicaa>
/m n/ <m n>
/mː nː/ <mh nh>
/p b t d k g/ <b mb d nd g ng>
/pː tː kː/ <p t k>
/ts tʃ cç/ <ts j gy>
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ <vh v rh r z c xh x>
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ <f q s ch h>
/w l j/ <w l y>
/wː lː jː/ <wh lh yh>
/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <aa ee ii oo uu>
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ <ah eh ih oh uh>
Lagjawohz axi ozumeeqe ajuumaa aamzalkuul.
Vhivojawna zumzalkuul aamyuumaa zemlah myeeqe.
Mullag.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/a e i o u/ <ə ɛ ɔ ɩ ʊ>
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <a e o i u>
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ <ā ē ō ī ū>
/m n/ <m n>
/mː nː/ <m̄ n̄>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g>
/pː tː kː/ <ꝑ ŧ ꝁ>
/ts tʃ cç/ <ts tj kj>
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ <f v þ ð s x h ğ>
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ <ꞙ ꝥ s̄ x̄ ħ>
/w l j/ <w l y>
/wː lː jː/ <w̄ ꝉ ȳ>
Ləktjəwōs əğɩ ɔsʊmeꝥɛ ətjuma amsəlꝁul.
Fɩvɔtjəwnə sʊmsəlꝁul amyuma sɛmlā myeꝥɛ.
Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək.
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <a e o i u>
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ <ā ē ō ī ū>
/m n/ <m n>
/mː nː/ <m̄ n̄>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g>
/pː tː kː/ <ꝑ ŧ ꝁ>
/ts tʃ cç/ <ts tj kj>
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ <f v þ ð s x h ğ>
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ <ꞙ ꝥ s̄ x̄ ħ>
/w l j/ <w l y>
/wː lː jː/ <w̄ ꝉ ȳ>
Ləktjəwōs əğɩ ɔsʊmeꝥɛ ətjuma amsəlꝁul.
Fɩvɔtjəwnə sʊmsəlꝁul amyuma sɛmlā myeꝥɛ.
Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək. Mʊꝉək.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
I've posted this one before, but I'll post it again out of boredom.
/rihɑllæ kɑːfi/ [reˈhɑʎːɐ ˈkɑːɸe]
Syllables have the structure CV(ː)(C)(C) with unrestricted geminates with the sole exceptions that initial syllables can lack an onset and that coda Ch is not allowed.
Stress falls on the leftmost heaviest syllable of the last three syllables of a word, including attached clitics.
Here is the consonant inventory:
/m n/ [m n~ɲ*~ŋ$~ɴ$]
/b d/ [b~β+ d̪~ð+~d#~dz*~z*+]
/t k q/ [t̪~t#~ts* c*~k k*~q]
/tʼ kʼ qʼ/ [t̪ʼ~tʼ#~tsʼ* cʼ*~kʼ kʼ*~qʼ]
/f s χ h/ [f~ɸ+ s~ʃ* x*~χ ç*~h~ħ!]
/z ʁ/ [z~ʒ* ɣ*~ʁ]
/r l/ [r~ɾ+ l~ʎ*]
/w j/ [w j]
All consonants can be geminate
* Before front vowels or /j/ before or in the next syllable
# Before front vowels or /j/ before or in the next syllable but before another consonant
+ Intervocalic
! Geminate
$ Before a homorganic consonant
Here is the vowel inventory:
/i æ ɑ u/
/iː æː ɑː uː/
Stressed short vowel phonemes are realized as [i æ ɑ u] except before a uvular phoneme, where then they are [e ɑ ɑ o].
Stressed long vowel phonemes are realized as [iː æː ɑː uː] except before a uvular phoneme, where then they are [eː ɑː ɑː oː].
Unstressed short vowel phonemes are realized as [e ɐ ɐ o] except before a uvular phoneme, where then they are [e ɑ ɑ o].
Unstressed long vowel phonemes are realized as [i æ ɑ u] except before a uvular phoneme, where then they are [e ɑ ɑ o].
The following vowel-glide sequences are realized specially provided the glide falls in the same syllable as the vowel:
Stressed /æj ɑw/ are realized as [ɛː ɔː].
Unstressed /æj ɑw/ are realized as [ɛ ɔ].
Stressed /æːj ɑːw/ are realized as [ɛːj ɔːw].
Unstressed /æːj ɑːw/ are realized as [ɛj ɔw].
[ˈkʼɑrːotset̪ wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse qʼɔːl ˈχɑrtsɐskʼɐ ˈkʼɑmɐ lɑj ˈmiɲːɐt̪ɐn ˈd̪utːsɐtse ræˈmɛːjt̪ çi wɐˈɸɑːrt̪ mæd̪ ˈqɑlːt̪ɐ ˈʃiɣɐ]
[ˈzɑʎːtset̪ ˈmiɲːɐt̪ɐ ˈɲisɐwɐ ɲeˈmæːɾɐtse ˈmiɲːɐ ˈʃiɲːekʼɐ ˈkʼɑmɐ ɲet̪ɑʁɑʃtˈdzitsekɐ ræˈmɛːjt̪ t̪oˈqɑlːt̪ɐ çi ˈqɔːχɐrtsɐs mɑj ˈciɲʒeʁɐn]
[ˈjukːɐtse wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse çi χɑrt̪ çi ɲeˈɣæh ˈjukːɐtse χuːr qʼurː ˈmiɲːɐ ˈæɲtsɐ ɲeˈnudːtsekɐ ræˈmɛːjt̪ t̪oˈqɑlːt̪ɐ ˈæɲtsɐ ˈfɔːrɐ ˈmiɲːe dzeˈkʼɑtsekɐ wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse fɐˈmɑːqɐ çi ˈtʼɑzd̪]
/kʼɑrrutit wɑliwwæ sæːhti qʼɑwl χɑrtæskʼɑ kʼɑmɑ lɑj minnætɑn duttæti ræːmæːjt hi wɑfɑːrt mæd qɑlltɑ siʁæ/
/zɑlltit minnætɑ nisɑwɑ nimæːrɑti minnæ sinnikʼɑ kʼɑmɑ nitɑʁɑːstditikɑ ræːmæːjt tuqɑlltɑ hi qɑwχɑrtæs mɑj kinziːʁɑn/
/jukkɑti wɑliwwæ sæːhti hi χɑrt hi niʁæh jukkɑti χuːr qʼurr minnæ æntæ ninuddtikɑ ræːmæːjt tuqɑlltɑ æntæ fɑwræ minni dikʼɑtikɑ wɑliwwæ sæːhti fɑmɑːqɑ hi tʼɑzd/
/rihɑllæ kɑːfi/ [reˈhɑʎːɐ ˈkɑːɸe]
Syllables have the structure CV(ː)(C)(C) with unrestricted geminates with the sole exceptions that initial syllables can lack an onset and that coda Ch is not allowed.
Stress falls on the leftmost heaviest syllable of the last three syllables of a word, including attached clitics.
Here is the consonant inventory:
/m n/ [m n~ɲ*~ŋ$~ɴ$]
/b d/ [b~β+ d̪~ð+~d#~dz*~z*+]
/t k q/ [t̪~t#~ts* c*~k k*~q]
/tʼ kʼ qʼ/ [t̪ʼ~tʼ#~tsʼ* cʼ*~kʼ kʼ*~qʼ]
/f s χ h/ [f~ɸ+ s~ʃ* x*~χ ç*~h~ħ!]
/z ʁ/ [z~ʒ* ɣ*~ʁ]
/r l/ [r~ɾ+ l~ʎ*]
/w j/ [w j]
All consonants can be geminate
* Before front vowels or /j/ before or in the next syllable
# Before front vowels or /j/ before or in the next syllable but before another consonant
+ Intervocalic
! Geminate
$ Before a homorganic consonant
Here is the vowel inventory:
/i æ ɑ u/
/iː æː ɑː uː/
Stressed short vowel phonemes are realized as [i æ ɑ u] except before a uvular phoneme, where then they are [e ɑ ɑ o].
Stressed long vowel phonemes are realized as [iː æː ɑː uː] except before a uvular phoneme, where then they are [eː ɑː ɑː oː].
Unstressed short vowel phonemes are realized as [e ɐ ɐ o] except before a uvular phoneme, where then they are [e ɑ ɑ o].
Unstressed long vowel phonemes are realized as [i æ ɑ u] except before a uvular phoneme, where then they are [e ɑ ɑ o].
The following vowel-glide sequences are realized specially provided the glide falls in the same syllable as the vowel:
Stressed /æj ɑw/ are realized as [ɛː ɔː].
Unstressed /æj ɑw/ are realized as [ɛ ɔ].
Stressed /æːj ɑːw/ are realized as [ɛːj ɔːw].
Unstressed /æːj ɑːw/ are realized as [ɛj ɔw].
[ˈkʼɑrːotset̪ wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse qʼɔːl ˈχɑrtsɐskʼɐ ˈkʼɑmɐ lɑj ˈmiɲːɐt̪ɐn ˈd̪utːsɐtse ræˈmɛːjt̪ çi wɐˈɸɑːrt̪ mæd̪ ˈqɑlːt̪ɐ ˈʃiɣɐ]
[ˈzɑʎːtset̪ ˈmiɲːɐt̪ɐ ˈɲisɐwɐ ɲeˈmæːɾɐtse ˈmiɲːɐ ˈʃiɲːekʼɐ ˈkʼɑmɐ ɲet̪ɑʁɑʃtˈdzitsekɐ ræˈmɛːjt̪ t̪oˈqɑlːt̪ɐ çi ˈqɔːχɐrtsɐs mɑj ˈciɲʒeʁɐn]
[ˈjukːɐtse wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse çi χɑrt̪ çi ɲeˈɣæh ˈjukːɐtse χuːr qʼurː ˈmiɲːɐ ˈæɲtsɐ ɲeˈnudːtsekɐ ræˈmɛːjt̪ t̪oˈqɑlːt̪ɐ ˈæɲtsɐ ˈfɔːrɐ ˈmiɲːe dzeˈkʼɑtsekɐ wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse fɐˈmɑːqɐ çi ˈtʼɑzd̪]
/kʼɑrrutit wɑliwwæ sæːhti qʼɑwl χɑrtæskʼɑ kʼɑmɑ lɑj minnætɑn duttæti ræːmæːjt hi wɑfɑːrt mæd qɑlltɑ siʁæ/
/zɑlltit minnætɑ nisɑwɑ nimæːrɑti minnæ sinnikʼɑ kʼɑmɑ nitɑʁɑːstditikɑ ræːmæːjt tuqɑlltɑ hi qɑwχɑrtæs mɑj kinziːʁɑn/
/jukkɑti wɑliwwæ sæːhti hi χɑrt hi niʁæh jukkɑti χuːr qʼurr minnæ æntæ ninuddtikɑ ræːmæːjt tuqɑlltɑ æntæ fɑwræ minni dikʼɑtikɑ wɑliwwæ sæːhti fɑmɑːqɑ hi tʼɑzd/
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Let's try a Hispanic orthography.
/eːn mixiʃaː/ <Én Mijixá>
/m n/ <m n>
/mː nː/ <mm nn>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d c-qu g(u)>
/pː tː kː/ <pp tt cc-cqu>
/ts tʃ cç/ <tz ch ty>
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ <f v c-ç z s x j g(h)>
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ <ff çc-çç ss xx jj>
/w l j/ <h(u)-uh l y>
/wː lː jː/ <hh(u)-uhh ll yy>
/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <á é í ó ú>
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ <aa ee ii oo uu>
/w wwː/ are <uh uhh> in coda, <h hh> before <u>, and <hu hhu> elsewhere. /k g kː θ ɣ θː/ are <qu gu cqu c g çc> before front vowels and <c g cc ç gh çç> elsewhere.
sample text:
/la˥kt͡ʃawoːːs a˥ɣi o˥sumeːθːe at͡ʃuː˥maː aː˥msalkːuːl/ <Lacchawoos aghi osuméçce achúmá ámsalccúl.>
/fi˥vot͡ʃawna su˥msalkːuːl aː˥mjuːmaː se˥mlaːː mjeː˥θːe/ <Fivochauhna sumsalccúl ámyúmá semlaa myéçce.>
/mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k/ <Mulác. Mulác. Mulác. Mulác. Mulác. Mulác. Mulác.>
---
/m n ɲ/
/p b t d k kʷ ʔ/
/ts tʃ dʒ/
/ð s ʃ x xʷ/
/l j w/
/ɾ/
(ʔ)(C)V(R)
R = m n ɲ s ʃ x l j w ɾ
*/ʔʔ/ is forbidden
/a e i o/
/aː eː iː oː/
Tone + nasality combos: /V˥ V˩ Ṽ˨/
/ʔiː˥so˥ ʔi˥õː˨ɲa˩ ʃi˥ʔtsãː˨ ʔkʷe˥eː˩j wõ˨ĩː˨ʔke˥ dʒẽː˨so˩ oː˥ʃdʒoː˥ʔmo˥/
/eːn mixiʃaː/ <Én Mijixá>
/m n/ <m n>
/mː nː/ <mm nn>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d c-qu g(u)>
/pː tː kː/ <pp tt cc-cqu>
/ts tʃ cç/ <tz ch ty>
/f v θ ð s ʃ x ɣ/ <f v c-ç z s x j g(h)>
/fː θː sː ʃː xː/ <ff çc-çç ss xx jj>
/w l j/ <h(u)-uh l y>
/wː lː jː/ <hh(u)-uhh ll yy>
/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>
/aː eː iː oː uː/ <á é í ó ú>
/aːː eːː iːː oːː uːː/ <aa ee ii oo uu>
/w wwː/ are <uh uhh> in coda, <h hh> before <u>, and <hu hhu> elsewhere. /k g kː θ ɣ θː/ are <qu gu cqu c g çc> before front vowels and <c g cc ç gh çç> elsewhere.
sample text:
/la˥kt͡ʃawoːːs a˥ɣi o˥sumeːθːe at͡ʃuː˥maː aː˥msalkːuːl/ <Lacchawoos aghi osuméçce achúmá ámsalccúl.>
/fi˥vot͡ʃawna su˥msalkːuːl aː˥mjuːmaː se˥mlaːː mjeː˥θːe/ <Fivochauhna sumsalccúl ámyúmá semlaa myéçce.>
/mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k || mulːa˥k/ <Mulác. Mulác. Mulác. Mulác. Mulác. Mulác. Mulác.>
---
/m n ɲ/
/p b t d k kʷ ʔ/
/ts tʃ dʒ/
/ð s ʃ x xʷ/
/l j w/
/ɾ/
(ʔ)(C)V(R)
R = m n ɲ s ʃ x l j w ɾ
*/ʔʔ/ is forbidden
/a e i o/
/aː eː iː oː/
Tone + nasality combos: /V˥ V˩ Ṽ˨/
/ʔiː˥so˥ ʔi˥õː˨ɲa˩ ʃi˥ʔtsãː˨ ʔkʷe˥eː˩j wõ˨ĩː˨ʔke˥ dʒẽː˨so˩ oː˥ʃdʒoː˥ʔmo˥/
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Unnamed, in the style of mediaeval Spanish confused with Breton and then gone mildly crazy.
/m n ɲ/ ⟨m n ni¹³/in²³⟩
/p b t d k kʷ ʔ/ ⟨p b t d c⁴/qu⁵ qu⁴/qü⁵ ∅⁶/C⁷⟩
/ts tʃ dʒ/ ⟨ç⁴/c⁵ ch j⟩
/ð s ʃ x xʷ/ ⟨z s x h hu⟩
/l j w/ ⟨l gi¹⁸/i² gu¹⁹/u²⟩
/ɾ/ ⟨r⟩
(ʔ)(C)V(R)
R = m n ɲ s ʃ x l j w ɾ
*/ʔʔ/ is forbidden
/a e i o/ ⟨a e i o⟩
/aː eː iː oː/ ⟨á é í ó⟩
Tone is ignored. If a nasal vowel is not followed by a nasal consonant, an ⟨ñ⟩ is supplied afterwards. If two vowels are in hiatus and the second is short, then it gains a diaresis.
/ʔiː˥so˥ ʔi˥õː˨ɲa˩ ʃi˥ʔtsãː˨ ʔkʷe˥eː˩j wõ˨ĩː˨ʔke˥ dʒẽː˨so˩ oː˥ʃdʒoː˥ʔmo˥/
Íso Iónia xiççáñ qqüeéi goíñqque jéñso óxjómmo.
¹ In onset
² In coda
³ The ⟨i⟩ is dropped adjacent to ⟨i í⟩
⁴ Before ⟨a o á ó⟩, and in coda
⁵ Before ⟨i e í é⟩
⁶ Before a vowel
⁷ The doubling of a following consonant
⁸ The ⟨i⟩ is dropped before ⟨i e í é⟩
⁹ The ⟨u⟩ is dropped before ⟨o ó⟩
/m n ɲ/ ⟨m n ni¹³/in²³⟩
/p b t d k kʷ ʔ/ ⟨p b t d c⁴/qu⁵ qu⁴/qü⁵ ∅⁶/C⁷⟩
/ts tʃ dʒ/ ⟨ç⁴/c⁵ ch j⟩
/ð s ʃ x xʷ/ ⟨z s x h hu⟩
/l j w/ ⟨l gi¹⁸/i² gu¹⁹/u²⟩
/ɾ/ ⟨r⟩
(ʔ)(C)V(R)
R = m n ɲ s ʃ x l j w ɾ
*/ʔʔ/ is forbidden
/a e i o/ ⟨a e i o⟩
/aː eː iː oː/ ⟨á é í ó⟩
Tone is ignored. If a nasal vowel is not followed by a nasal consonant, an ⟨ñ⟩ is supplied afterwards. If two vowels are in hiatus and the second is short, then it gains a diaresis.
/ʔiː˥so˥ ʔi˥õː˨ɲa˩ ʃi˥ʔtsãː˨ ʔkʷe˥eː˩j wõ˨ĩː˨ʔke˥ dʒẽː˨so˩ oː˥ʃdʒoː˥ʔmo˥/
Íso Iónia xiççáñ qqüeéi goíñqque jéñso óxjómmo.
¹ In onset
² In coda
³ The ⟨i⟩ is dropped adjacent to ⟨i í⟩
⁴ Before ⟨a o á ó⟩, and in coda
⁵ Before ⟨i e í é⟩
⁶ Before a vowel
⁷ The doubling of a following consonant
⁸ The ⟨i⟩ is dropped before ⟨i e í é⟩
⁹ The ⟨u⟩ is dropped before ⟨o ó⟩
LZ – Lēri Ziwi
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
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PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/rihɑllæ kɑːfi/ [reˈhɑʎːɐ ˈkɑːɸe]
Rihallje Kāfi
/m n/ [m n~ɲ~ŋ~ɴ] m n~nj~nk~nq
/b d/ [b~β d̪~ð~d~dz~z] b~v d~ð~dj~dj~ðj
/t k q/ [t̪~t~ts c~k k~q] t~tj~tj kj~k qj~q
/tʼ kʼ qʼ/ [t̪ʼ~tʼ~tsʼ cʼ~kʼ kʼ~qʼ] t'~t'j~t'j k'j~k' q'j~q'
/f s χ h/ [f~ɸ s~ʃ x~χ ç~h~ħ] f~f s~sj xj~x hj~h~hh
/z ʁ/ [z~ʒ ɣ~ʁ] z~zj gj~g
/r l/ [r~ɾ l~ʎ] r~r l~lj
/w j/ [w j] w j
/i æ ɑ u/ [i~e æ~ɐ~ɑ ɐ~ɑ u~o] i e a u
/iː æː ɑː uː/ [iː~eː~i~e æː~ɑː~æ~ɑ ɑː~ɑ uː~oː~u~o] ī~ī~i~i ē~ē~e~e ā~a ū~ū~u~u
/æj ɑw/ [ɛː~ɛ ɔː~ɔ] ei au
/æːj ɑːw/ [ɛːj~ɛj ɔːj~ɔj] ēi~ei āu~au
stress is regulated so it is unmarked.
geminates are doubled.
in any digraph that ends with the same letter as the following phone, that letter is not marked. (I did a poor job of explaining that so here's an example: /nk/ [ŋk] <nk>, not /nk/ [ŋk] <nkk>)
/j/ is written as <i> when adjacent to another vowel.
the <j> that denotes a palatalized consonant is only marked at the end of any sequence of palatalized consonants, and is not marked if it would be written directly before <i>.
/kʼɑrrutit wɑliwwæ sæːhti qʼɑwl χɑrtæskʼɑ kʼɑmɑ lɑj minnætɑn duttæti ræːmæːjt hi wɑfɑːrt mæd qɑlltɑ siʁæ/
/zɑlltit minnætɑ nisɑwɑ nimæːrɑti minnæ sinnikʼɑ kʼɑmɑ nitɑʁɑːstditikɑ ræːmæːjt tuqɑlltɑ hi qɑwχɑrtæs mɑj kinziːʁɑn/
/jukkɑti wɑliwwæ sæːhti hi χɑrt hi niʁæh jukkɑti χuːr qʼurr minnæ æntæ ninuddtikɑ ræːmæːjt tuqɑlltɑ æntæ fɑwræ minni dikʼɑtikɑ wɑliwwæ sæːhti fɑmɑːqɑ hi tʼɑzd/
[ˈkʼɑrːotset̪ wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse qʼɔːl ˈχɑrtsɐskʼɐ ˈkʼɑmɐ lɑj ˈmiɲːɐt̪ɐn ˈd̪utːsɐtse ræˈmɛːjt̪ çi wɐˈɸɑːrt̪ mæd̪ ˈqɑlːt̪ɐ ˈʃiɣɐ]
[ˈzɑʎːtset̪ ˈmiɲːɐt̪ɐ ˈɲisɐwɐ ɲeˈmæːɾɐtse ˈmiɲːɐ ˈʃiɲːekʼɐ ˈkʼɑmɐ ɲet̪ɑʁɑʃtˈdzitsekɐ ræˈmɛːjt̪ t̪oˈqɑlːt̪ɐ çi ˈqɔːχɐrtsɐs mɑj ˈciɲʒeʁɐn]
[ˈjukːɐtse wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse çi χɑrt̪ çi ɲeˈɣæh ˈjukːɐtse χuːr qʼurː ˈmiɲːɐ ˈæɲtsɐ ɲeˈnudːtsekɐ ræˈmɛːjt̪ t̪oˈqɑlːt̪ɐ ˈæɲtsɐ ˈfɔːrɐ ˈmiɲːe dzeˈkʼɑtsekɐ wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse fɐˈmɑːqɐ çi ˈtʼɑzd̪]
K'arrutit waliwwe sjēhti q'aul xartjesk'a k'ama lai minnjetan duttjeti remēit hi wafārt med qallta sigje.
Zalltit minnjeta nisawa nimērati minnje sinnik'a k'ama nitagastditika remēit tuqallta hi qauxartes mai kinzigan.
Iukkati waliwwe sjēhti hi xart hi nigjeh iukkati xūr q'urr minnje entje ninuddtika remēit tuqallta entje faure minni dik'atika waliwwe sjēhti famāga hi t'azd.
Rihallje Kāfi
/m n/ [m n~ɲ~ŋ~ɴ] m n~nj~nk~nq
/b d/ [b~β d̪~ð~d~dz~z] b~v d~ð~dj~dj~ðj
/t k q/ [t̪~t~ts c~k k~q] t~tj~tj kj~k qj~q
/tʼ kʼ qʼ/ [t̪ʼ~tʼ~tsʼ cʼ~kʼ kʼ~qʼ] t'~t'j~t'j k'j~k' q'j~q'
/f s χ h/ [f~ɸ s~ʃ x~χ ç~h~ħ] f~f s~sj xj~x hj~h~hh
/z ʁ/ [z~ʒ ɣ~ʁ] z~zj gj~g
/r l/ [r~ɾ l~ʎ] r~r l~lj
/w j/ [w j] w j
/i æ ɑ u/ [i~e æ~ɐ~ɑ ɐ~ɑ u~o] i e a u
/iː æː ɑː uː/ [iː~eː~i~e æː~ɑː~æ~ɑ ɑː~ɑ uː~oː~u~o] ī~ī~i~i ē~ē~e~e ā~a ū~ū~u~u
/æj ɑw/ [ɛː~ɛ ɔː~ɔ] ei au
/æːj ɑːw/ [ɛːj~ɛj ɔːj~ɔj] ēi~ei āu~au
stress is regulated so it is unmarked.
geminates are doubled.
in any digraph that ends with the same letter as the following phone, that letter is not marked. (I did a poor job of explaining that so here's an example: /nk/ [ŋk] <nk>, not /nk/ [ŋk] <nkk>)
/j/ is written as <i> when adjacent to another vowel.
the <j> that denotes a palatalized consonant is only marked at the end of any sequence of palatalized consonants, and is not marked if it would be written directly before <i>.
/kʼɑrrutit wɑliwwæ sæːhti qʼɑwl χɑrtæskʼɑ kʼɑmɑ lɑj minnætɑn duttæti ræːmæːjt hi wɑfɑːrt mæd qɑlltɑ siʁæ/
/zɑlltit minnætɑ nisɑwɑ nimæːrɑti minnæ sinnikʼɑ kʼɑmɑ nitɑʁɑːstditikɑ ræːmæːjt tuqɑlltɑ hi qɑwχɑrtæs mɑj kinziːʁɑn/
/jukkɑti wɑliwwæ sæːhti hi χɑrt hi niʁæh jukkɑti χuːr qʼurr minnæ æntæ ninuddtikɑ ræːmæːjt tuqɑlltɑ æntæ fɑwræ minni dikʼɑtikɑ wɑliwwæ sæːhti fɑmɑːqɑ hi tʼɑzd/
[ˈkʼɑrːotset̪ wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse qʼɔːl ˈχɑrtsɐskʼɐ ˈkʼɑmɐ lɑj ˈmiɲːɐt̪ɐn ˈd̪utːsɐtse ræˈmɛːjt̪ çi wɐˈɸɑːrt̪ mæd̪ ˈqɑlːt̪ɐ ˈʃiɣɐ]
[ˈzɑʎːtset̪ ˈmiɲːɐt̪ɐ ˈɲisɐwɐ ɲeˈmæːɾɐtse ˈmiɲːɐ ˈʃiɲːekʼɐ ˈkʼɑmɐ ɲet̪ɑʁɑʃtˈdzitsekɐ ræˈmɛːjt̪ t̪oˈqɑlːt̪ɐ çi ˈqɔːχɐrtsɐs mɑj ˈciɲʒeʁɐn]
[ˈjukːɐtse wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse çi χɑrt̪ çi ɲeˈɣæh ˈjukːɐtse χuːr qʼurː ˈmiɲːɐ ˈæɲtsɐ ɲeˈnudːtsekɐ ræˈmɛːjt̪ t̪oˈqɑlːt̪ɐ ˈæɲtsɐ ˈfɔːrɐ ˈmiɲːe dzeˈkʼɑtsekɐ wɐˈʎiwːɐ ˈʃæːçtse fɐˈmɑːqɐ çi ˈtʼɑzd̪]
K'arrutit waliwwe sjēhti q'aul xartjesk'a k'ama lai minnjetan duttjeti remēit hi wafārt med qallta sigje.
Zalltit minnjeta nisawa nimērati minnje sinnik'a k'ama nitagastditika remēit tuqallta hi qauxartes mai kinzigan.
Iukkati waliwwe sjēhti hi xart hi nigjeh iukkati xūr q'urr minnje entje ninuddtika remēit tuqallta entje faure minni dik'atika waliwwe sjēhti famāga hi t'azd.
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"May all here present witness be!
Alyen of Dúr is bound to me
and from this day all nature hails
the future Keeper of the Scales!"
"May all here present witness be!
Alyen of Dúr is bound to me
and from this day all nature hails
the future Keeper of the Scales!"
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/m n ɲ/ m n ṅ
/p b t d k kʷ ʔ/ p b t d k k̭ '
/ts tʃ dʒ/ ts tṡ j
/ð s ʃ x xʷ/ θ s ṡ x x̌
/l j w/ l i u
/ɾ/ r
/a e i o/ a e i o
/aː eː iː oː/ aa ee ii oo
/V˥ V˩ Ṽ˨/ V V̀ Ṽ
/j w/ is <i u> word-initially and <Ċ/C̣ Č/C̭> on any preceding phone.
vowel-related diacritics are marked on the first letter of a long vowel.
/ʔiː˥so˥ ʔi˥õː˨ɲa˩ ʃi˥ʔtsãː˨ ʔkʷe˥eː˩j wõ˨ĩː˨ʔke˥ dʒẽː˨so˩ oː˥ʃdʒoː˥ʔmo˥/
'iiso 'iõṅà ṡi'tsã 'k̭eèė uõĩi'ke jẽesò ooṡjoo'mo
/p b t d k kʷ ʔ/ p b t d k k̭ '
/ts tʃ dʒ/ ts tṡ j
/ð s ʃ x xʷ/ θ s ṡ x x̌
/l j w/ l i u
/ɾ/ r
/a e i o/ a e i o
/aː eː iː oː/ aa ee ii oo
/V˥ V˩ Ṽ˨/ V V̀ Ṽ
/j w/ is <i u> word-initially and <Ċ/C̣ Č/C̭> on any preceding phone.
vowel-related diacritics are marked on the first letter of a long vowel.
/ʔiː˥so˥ ʔi˥õː˨ɲa˩ ʃi˥ʔtsãː˨ ʔkʷe˥eː˩j wõ˨ĩː˨ʔke˥ dʒẽː˨so˩ oː˥ʃdʒoː˥ʔmo˥/
'iiso 'iõṅà ṡi'tsã 'k̭eèė uõĩi'ke jẽesò ooṡjoo'mo
⟨notenderdude⟩
"May all here present witness be!
Alyen of Dúr is bound to me
and from this day all nature hails
the future Keeper of the Scales!"
"May all here present witness be!
Alyen of Dúr is bound to me
and from this day all nature hails
the future Keeper of the Scales!"
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
A probably unrealistic language.
*m *mʲ *n *nʲ
*m̰ *m̰ʲ *n̰ *n̰ʲ
*ᵐb *ᵐbʲ *ⁿd *ⁿdʲ
*b *bʲ *d *dʲ
*b̰ *b̰ʲ
*pʲ *t *tʲ *cʲ *k *kʲ *qʷ *ʔ
*pʰ *pʲʰ *tʰ *tʲʰ *cʲʰ *kʰ *kʲʰ *kʷʰ *qʷʰ *h
*ts *tsʲ *tʃ *tʃʲ
*tsʰ *tsʲʰ *tʃʰ *tʃʲʰ
*s *sʲ
*dɾ *dɾʲ
*dɺ *dɺʲ *gʟ *gʟʲ *gʟʷ
*ɾ *ɾʲ
*r *rʲ *ʀ
*r̰ *ʀ̰
*ɺ *ɺʲ
*l *lʲ *lʷ *ʎ *ʎʲ
*l̰ *l̰ʲ *l̰ʷ *ʎ̰ʲ
*β *βʲ *j *w
*β̰ *β̰ʲ *j̰
*i *u
*e *o
*a
Syllable structure was CV except for a few common words and an affix which have final *-n
tʲinakʲenutʲa pʲab̰ʲi kʰuwamai pʰakʲenun
kʷʰoʀota lʷan pʲʰi kʲiʔu masʲa oβ̰ʲai-ja
ɾama kʷʰilaʀahe kʲenunopikʰo hwaqʷʰo kʷʰumʲu
takʲenu kʷʰilaʀa-dɾa sa β̰ʲiβ̰ʲiᵐbʲa ɾama kʷʰumʲugʟoke ʔaima
ɾajaɺwa ɾʲau nitʰinu sʲiɺu βiɾaja tsʲʰiu pʲʰii naβʲau niinu
ʀo gʟʷugʟʷu kʰʲeɾwe ɺʲiʀono rʲikʲʰi riqi l̰ʲwa β̰inutu j̰a
bul̰u l̰ʷusi nalʷa ᵐbocʲʰa tʃʲada bʲetʃʲʰe b̰ʲura b̰a ʎ̰ʲenʲe
gʟʲitʃʰi tʃoja dɺʲimi daʎʲa dʲidʲi ᶮɟuu saᶮɟʲa dɾʲuwi ʎutsʰu
atsʲʰa dɺu dɾawe kʲʰo tʲʰana n̰atʰa n̰ʲitʲi um̰u sam̰ʲa
*m *mʲ *n *nʲ
*m̰ *m̰ʲ *n̰ *n̰ʲ
*ᵐb *ᵐbʲ *ⁿd *ⁿdʲ
*b *bʲ *d *dʲ
*b̰ *b̰ʲ
*pʲ *t *tʲ *cʲ *k *kʲ *qʷ *ʔ
*pʰ *pʲʰ *tʰ *tʲʰ *cʲʰ *kʰ *kʲʰ *kʷʰ *qʷʰ *h
*ts *tsʲ *tʃ *tʃʲ
*tsʰ *tsʲʰ *tʃʰ *tʃʲʰ
*s *sʲ
*dɾ *dɾʲ
*dɺ *dɺʲ *gʟ *gʟʲ *gʟʷ
*ɾ *ɾʲ
*r *rʲ *ʀ
*r̰ *ʀ̰
*ɺ *ɺʲ
*l *lʲ *lʷ *ʎ *ʎʲ
*l̰ *l̰ʲ *l̰ʷ *ʎ̰ʲ
*β *βʲ *j *w
*β̰ *β̰ʲ *j̰
*i *u
*e *o
*a
Syllable structure was CV except for a few common words and an affix which have final *-n
tʲinakʲenutʲa pʲab̰ʲi kʰuwamai pʰakʲenun
kʷʰoʀota lʷan pʲʰi kʲiʔu masʲa oβ̰ʲai-ja
ɾama kʷʰilaʀahe kʲenunopikʰo hwaqʷʰo kʷʰumʲu
takʲenu kʷʰilaʀa-dɾa sa β̰ʲiβ̰ʲiᵐbʲa ɾama kʷʰumʲugʟoke ʔaima
ɾajaɺwa ɾʲau nitʰinu sʲiɺu βiɾaja tsʲʰiu pʲʰii naβʲau niinu
ʀo gʟʷugʟʷu kʰʲeɾwe ɺʲiʀono rʲikʲʰi riqi l̰ʲwa β̰inutu j̰a
bul̰u l̰ʷusi nalʷa ᵐbocʲʰa tʃʲada bʲetʃʲʰe b̰ʲura b̰a ʎ̰ʲenʲe
gʟʲitʃʰi tʃoja dɺʲimi daʎʲa dʲidʲi ᶮɟuu saᶮɟʲa dɾʲuwi ʎutsʰu
atsʲʰa dɺu dɾawe kʲʰo tʲʰana n̰atʰa n̰ʲitʲi um̰u sam̰ʲa
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Danny Wier would be proud of you 
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I tried to go diacriticless and I think I made the ugliest possible romanization here, but they said roll with the punches.
/m mʲ n nʲ/ m my n ny
/ᵐb ᵐbʲ ⁿd ⁿdʲ/ mb mby nd ndy
/b bʲ d dʲ/ b by d dy
/pʲ t tʲ c k kʲ qʷ ʔ/ py t ty c k ky qw '
/pʰ pʲʰ tʰ tʲʰ cʰ kʰ kʲʰ kʷʰ qʷʰ h/ ph phy th thy ch kh khy khw qhw h
/ts tsʲ tʃ tʃʲ/ ts tsy tc tcy
/tsʰ tsʲʰ tʃʰ tʃʲʰ/ tsh tshy tch tchy
/s sʲ/ s sy
/dɾ dɾʲ/ dr dry
/dɺ dɺʲ gʟ gʟʲ gʟʷ/ dlr dlry gl gly glw
/ɾ ɾʲ/ r ry
/r rʲ ʀ/ rr rry rh
/ɺ ɺʲ/ lr lry
/l lʲ lʷ ʎ/ l ly lw j
/β βʲ j w/ v vy y w
/i u e o a/ i u e o a
creaky voice is marked by capitalizing the consonant.
/tʲinakʲenutʲa pʲab̰ʲi kʰuwamai pʰakʲenun/
/kʷʰoʀota lʷan pʲʰi kʲiʔu masʲa oβ̰ʲai-ja/
/ɾama kʷʰilaʀahe kʲenunopikʰo hwaqʷʰo kʷʰumʲu/
/takʲenu kʷʰilaʀa-dɾa sa β̰ʲiβ̰ʲiᵐbʲa ɾama kʷʰumʲugʟoke ʔaima/
/ɾajaɺwa ɾʲau nitʰinu sʲiɺu βiɾaja tsʲʰiu pʲʰii naβʲau niinu/
/ʀo gʟʷugʟʷu kʰʲeɾwe ɺʲiʀono rʲikʲʰi riqi l̰ʲwa β̰inutu j̰a/
/bul̰u l̰ʷusi nalʷa ᵐbocʲʰa tʃʲada bʲetʃʲʰe b̰ʲura b̰a ʎ̰ʲenʲe/
/gʟʲitʃʰi tʃoja dɺʲimi daʎʲa dʲidʲi ᶮɟuu saᶮɟʲa dɾʲuwi ʎutsʰu/
/atsʲʰa dɺu dɾawe kʲʰo tʲʰana n̰atʰa n̰ʲitʲi um̰u sam̰ʲa/
tyinakyenutya pyaBYi khuwamai phakyenun.
khworhota lwan phyi kyi'u masya oVYai-ya.
rama khwilarhahe kyenunopikho hwaqhwo khwumyu.
takyenu khwlarha-dra sa VYiVYimbya rama khwumyugloke 'aima.
rayalrwa ryau nithinu syilru viraya tshyiu phyii navyau niinu.
rho glwuglwu khyerwe lryirhono rryikhyi rriqi LYwa Viniti Ya.
buLu LWusi nalwa mbocha tcyada byetchye BYurra Ba Jenye.
glyitchi tcoya drlyimi daja dyidyi ndyuu sandya dryuwi jutshu.
atshya dlru drawe khyo thyana Natha NYityi uMu saMYa.
/m mʲ n nʲ/ m my n ny
/ᵐb ᵐbʲ ⁿd ⁿdʲ/ mb mby nd ndy
/b bʲ d dʲ/ b by d dy
/pʲ t tʲ c k kʲ qʷ ʔ/ py t ty c k ky qw '
/pʰ pʲʰ tʰ tʲʰ cʰ kʰ kʲʰ kʷʰ qʷʰ h/ ph phy th thy ch kh khy khw qhw h
/ts tsʲ tʃ tʃʲ/ ts tsy tc tcy
/tsʰ tsʲʰ tʃʰ tʃʲʰ/ tsh tshy tch tchy
/s sʲ/ s sy
/dɾ dɾʲ/ dr dry
/dɺ dɺʲ gʟ gʟʲ gʟʷ/ dlr dlry gl gly glw
/ɾ ɾʲ/ r ry
/r rʲ ʀ/ rr rry rh
/ɺ ɺʲ/ lr lry
/l lʲ lʷ ʎ/ l ly lw j
/β βʲ j w/ v vy y w
/i u e o a/ i u e o a
creaky voice is marked by capitalizing the consonant.
/tʲinakʲenutʲa pʲab̰ʲi kʰuwamai pʰakʲenun/
/kʷʰoʀota lʷan pʲʰi kʲiʔu masʲa oβ̰ʲai-ja/
/ɾama kʷʰilaʀahe kʲenunopikʰo hwaqʷʰo kʷʰumʲu/
/takʲenu kʷʰilaʀa-dɾa sa β̰ʲiβ̰ʲiᵐbʲa ɾama kʷʰumʲugʟoke ʔaima/
/ɾajaɺwa ɾʲau nitʰinu sʲiɺu βiɾaja tsʲʰiu pʲʰii naβʲau niinu/
/ʀo gʟʷugʟʷu kʰʲeɾwe ɺʲiʀono rʲikʲʰi riqi l̰ʲwa β̰inutu j̰a/
/bul̰u l̰ʷusi nalʷa ᵐbocʲʰa tʃʲada bʲetʃʲʰe b̰ʲura b̰a ʎ̰ʲenʲe/
/gʟʲitʃʰi tʃoja dɺʲimi daʎʲa dʲidʲi ᶮɟuu saᶮɟʲa dɾʲuwi ʎutsʰu/
/atsʲʰa dɺu dɾawe kʲʰo tʲʰana n̰atʰa n̰ʲitʲi um̰u sam̰ʲa/
tyinakyenutya pyaBYi khuwamai phakyenun.
khworhota lwan phyi kyi'u masya oVYai-ya.
rama khwilarhahe kyenunopikho hwaqhwo khwumyu.
takyenu khwlarha-dra sa VYiVYimbya rama khwumyugloke 'aima.
rayalrwa ryau nithinu syilru viraya tshyiu phyii navyau niinu.
rho glwuglwu khyerwe lryirhono rryikhyi rriqi LYwa Viniti Ya.
buLu LWusi nalwa mbocha tcyada byetchye BYurra Ba Jenye.
glyitchi tcoya drlyimi daja dyidyi ndyuu sandya dryuwi jutshu.
atshya dlru drawe khyo thyana Natha NYityi uMu saMYa.
⟨notenderdude⟩
"May all here present witness be!
Alyen of Dúr is bound to me
and from this day all nature hails
the future Keeper of the Scales!"
"May all here present witness be!
Alyen of Dúr is bound to me
and from this day all nature hails
the future Keeper of the Scales!"
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Who doesn't love phonemically distinctive capitalization in an orthography?/ˌnɐ.ˈɾɛn.dɚ.ˌduːd/ wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 8:26 am creaky voice is marked by capitalizing the consonant.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
I don't. They are an offense on a par with capital IPA letters (which don't exist, but still some conlangers come up with orthographies which try to use them)Travis B. wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:54 amWho doesn't love phonemically distinctive capitalization in an orthography?/ˌnɐ.ˈɾɛn.dɚ.ˌduːd/ wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 8:26 am creaky voice is marked by capitalizing the consonant.
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
No diacritics, no digraphs, no distinctive capitalization.
*m *mʲ *n *nʲ <m m n n>
*m̰ *m̰ʲ *n̰ *n̰ʲ <м м н н>
*ᵐb *ᵐbʲ *ⁿd *ⁿdʲ <ƃ ƃ ƌ ƌ>
*b *bʲ *d *dʲ <b b d d>
*b̰ *b̰ʲ <б>
*pʲ *t *tʲ *cʲ *k *kʲ *qʷ *ʔ <п t t ч k k ҁ ʔ>
*pʰ *pʲʰ *tʰ *tʲʰ *cʲʰ *kʰ *kʲʰ *kʷʰ *qʷʰ *h <φ φ θ θ c x x x q h>
*ts *tsʲ *tʃ *tʃʲ <ц ц ћ ћ>
*tsʰ *tsʲʰ *tʃʰ *tʃʲʰ <z z ꞓ ꞓ>
*s *sʲ <s s>
*dɾ *dɾʲ <ꝺ ꝺ>
*dɺ *dɺʲ *gʟ *gʟʲ *gʟʷ <ꝇ ꝇ g g g>
*ɾ *ɾʲ <ꞃ ꞃ>
*r *rʲ *ʀ <r r ꝛ>
*r̰ *ʀ̰ <р ғ>
*ɺ *ɺʲ <ꝝ ꝝ>
*l *lʲ *lʷ *ʎ *ʎʲ <l l l λ>
*l̰ *l̰ʲ *l̰ʷ *ʎ̰ʲ <л л л љ>
*β *βʲ *j *w <v v j w>
*β̰ *β̰ʲ *j̰ <в в й>
C: /a e o i u/ <a æ œ ɨ ɯ>
Cʲ: /a e o i u/ <ɛ e ø i y>
Cʷ: /a e o i u/ <ꞛ ꞝ o ꞟ u>
Tinakenutɛ pɛбi kɯwamai φakenun
Xoꝛota lꞛn φi kiʔu masɛ oвɛija
Ꞃama xꞟlaꝛaho kenunopixœ hwaqo xumy
*m *mʲ *n *nʲ <m m n n>
*m̰ *m̰ʲ *n̰ *n̰ʲ <м м н н>
*ᵐb *ᵐbʲ *ⁿd *ⁿdʲ <ƃ ƃ ƌ ƌ>
*b *bʲ *d *dʲ <b b d d>
*b̰ *b̰ʲ <б>
*pʲ *t *tʲ *cʲ *k *kʲ *qʷ *ʔ <п t t ч k k ҁ ʔ>
*pʰ *pʲʰ *tʰ *tʲʰ *cʲʰ *kʰ *kʲʰ *kʷʰ *qʷʰ *h <φ φ θ θ c x x x q h>
*ts *tsʲ *tʃ *tʃʲ <ц ц ћ ћ>
*tsʰ *tsʲʰ *tʃʰ *tʃʲʰ <z z ꞓ ꞓ>
*s *sʲ <s s>
*dɾ *dɾʲ <ꝺ ꝺ>
*dɺ *dɺʲ *gʟ *gʟʲ *gʟʷ <ꝇ ꝇ g g g>
*ɾ *ɾʲ <ꞃ ꞃ>
*r *rʲ *ʀ <r r ꝛ>
*r̰ *ʀ̰ <р ғ>
*ɺ *ɺʲ <ꝝ ꝝ>
*l *lʲ *lʷ *ʎ *ʎʲ <l l l λ>
*l̰ *l̰ʲ *l̰ʷ *ʎ̰ʲ <л л л љ>
*β *βʲ *j *w <v v j w>
*β̰ *β̰ʲ *j̰ <в в й>
C: /a e o i u/ <a æ œ ɨ ɯ>
Cʲ: /a e o i u/ <ɛ e ø i y>
Cʷ: /a e o i u/ <ꞛ ꞝ o ꞟ u>
Tinakenutɛ pɛбi kɯwamai φakenun
Xoꝛota lꞛn φi kiʔu masɛ oвɛija
Ꞃama xꞟlaꝛaho kenunopixœ hwaqo xumy
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
???
I see. Koppa had some extra fun before falling into disuse.The Wiki wrote: Koppa (Cyrillic) […] is an archaic numeral character of the Cyrillic script
???‽‽Nort wrote:ꞓ
Of courseThe Wiki wrote: C with bar […] was used in the Unified Northern Alphabet […] to denote the sound [t͡ʃ]
‽‽‽‽‽Nort wrote:ꝇ
I see.The Wiki wrote: In Old Icelandic, the broken L ligature appears in some instances [for [t͡ɬ], if I read the preceding section correctly], such as vꜹꝇum (field) and oꝇo (all)
‽‽‽‽‽Nort wrote:ꝝ
Yes. Of course it does.The Wiki wrote: Latin Extended-D also has characters for medieval scribal abbreviations. Among them is the abbreviation for the syllable rum, consisting of a r rotunda with a cut
Are those the…Nort wrote:ꞛ ꞝ ꞟ
I think today has stretched my obscure letter recognition skills more than any other.The Wiki wrote: [Johann Martin] Schleyer proposed alternate forms for the umlaut vowels [in his 19th century international auxiliary language Volapük¹, so awful it became a Danish word for gibberish²], but they were rarely used.
¹ Or should that be Volapꞟk?
² As well as the Esparanto volapukaĵo with the same meaning, but I assume that's standard IAL rivalry
LZ – Lēri Ziwi
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Damn i forgot the *ᶮɟ *ᶮɟʲ and the fact the language is CwV
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
*m *n
*b *d *g
*p *t̪ *c *k *q
*v *z
*f *s̪ *x *h
*l *j *w
*r
*i *y *u
*e *o
*a
See you can technically romanize this lang with the entire english alphabet but i'll see what you can come up with.
*b *d *g
*p *t̪ *c *k *q
*v *z
*f *s̪ *x *h
*l *j *w
*r
*i *y *u
*e *o
*a
See you can technically romanize this lang with the entire english alphabet but i'll see what you can come up with.
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Challenge accepted:
*m *n m n
*b *d *g ph th kh
*p *t̪ *c *k *q p t ky k kw
*v *z bh dh
*f *s̪ *x *h b d g h
*l *j *w l y w
*r r
*i *y *u i ü u
*e *o e o
*a a
there's no grammar or sample text, so i'll assume that this romanization doesn't overlook anything.
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"May all here present witness be!
Alyen of Dúr is bound to me
and from this day all nature hails
the future Keeper of the Scales!"
"May all here present witness be!
Alyen of Dúr is bound to me
and from this day all nature hails
the future Keeper of the Scales!"