nth ZBB Translation Relay (results out)

[Glass Half Baked]

People. Why do you let a goose in the house and then complain about goose shit on the floor?

[Travis B.]

People. Why do you let a goose in the house and then complain about goose shit on the floor?

Letting foxcatdog participate in the relay wasn't my idea (and frankly if I had my way he wouldn't participate in anything, with his general behavior overall).

[Darren]

Yes, I let him participate, because I'm not an arsehole and he's been mostly okay in (translation) relays before. It's obvious he's not malicious or intentionally trolling, he's just weird, which, let's face it, all of us are. Next relay I run I won't let him in, or if I am extroardinarily magnanimous it'll be right at the end when he can't cause any damage.

[Man in Space]

It's obvious he's not malicious or intentionally trolling, he's just weird, which, let's face it, all of us are.

He is not “just weird”. He actively refuses correction, criticism, and collaboration. Read the public records.

[Darren]

It's obvious he's not malicious or intentionally trolling, he's just weird, which, let's face it, all of us are.

He is not “just weird”. He actively refuses correction, criticism, and collaboration. Read the public records.

Yeah I know you loathe him, and I know first hand what it's like trying to collaborate with him. I've still never seen him do anything malicious. He just has a very very very narrow idea of what kind of conlanging he wants to do and doesn't realise that not everyone else wants it forced on them. I don't want to exclude him from translation relays because of that, but I will put him at the end out of the way. If you don't want to be in a relay with him at all, you don't have to.

[Man in Space]

I've still never seen him do anything malicious.

Pages 8 and 9 of the 2020 Relay thread are visible to all.

[Darren]

I've still never seen him do anything malicious.

Pages 8 and 9 of the 2020 Relay thread are visible to all.

Yeah I still think that's just him being an asshole

[Glass Half Baked]

There's nothing wrong with saying "you've picked up the ball every time we try to play football with you. Next time just don't play." It doesn't have to be a condemnation of him as a person, nor does it require some standard of malicious intent on his part. It's just a recognition that he is unable or unwilling to collaborate in a useful way.

(that said, I am also supportive of the idea of sticking him at the end, where he can go nuts without sabotaging the whole relay)

[Darren]

There's nothing wrong with saying "you've picked up the ball every time we try to play football with you. Next time just don't play." It doesn't have to be a condemnation of him as a person, nor does it require some standard of malicious intent on his part. It's just a recognition that he is unable or unwilling to collaborate in a useful way.

yeah

[Morkai5]

Are we publishing the results in FrathWiki or somewhere?

[bradrn]

Are we publishing the results in FrathWiki or somewhere?

Results were published here.

[Morkai5]

Results were published here.

I know. But are we publishing the results in FrathWiki? Could I do it, or someones does it? I think there's an historic there.