Conlang fluency thread

[Travis B.]

Bleselbu’ sOstronisyen towraŋwgiŋ.

I think it seems Austronesian.

(After all, Malagasy exists. And from what I remember the grammar is quite Austronesian.)

Het skain laik en nigerkongoiske spraak oder en ostronesiske spraak tu mi.
It seems like a Niger-Congo language or an Austronesian language to me.

[Imralu]

diftong

Ik skulde seggen, dat file engeliske spraakwarieteten heb /p/ and nicht /f/ in dit word.
I should say that many English varieties have /p/ and not /f/ in this word.

Wi nge "varieties" do, ndzwai myegi ndze vwendye u vwegyo. I zei yui zyange vubu. Dwehii banggwa ngegyo zyi nggwe zyi vyudyi ⟨h⟩ do li ngengga /f/ u ha dwei negu ndozya ngegyo.
ʻUi nge "varieties" to, nitsuāʻi mieki nitsē fuenitiē ʻu fuekio. ʻI seʻi ʻiuʻi siange fupu. Tuehiʻi panikuā ngekio siyi nikuē siyi fiutiyi ⟨h⟩ to li ngenikā /f/ ʻu ha tueʻi neku nitōsia ngekio.
When you say varieties, it's just people who didn't read it carefully. It's not like it's dialect. They often write it without the ⟨h⟩ and then start pronouncing it with /f/ when they realise how to spell it correctly.

Als ik kristen war, skulde ik seggen "Hi is upstaan".

Nai zamu zyu "als"-i go dyi ya Datyi u ze go dyi ya Dyamani, ha? I ha gwo ha zi?
Naʻi samu siu "als"-ʻi ko tiyi ʻia Datyi ʻu se ko diyi ʻia Dyamani, ha? I ha kuo ha si?
I'm assuming the "als" is like in Dutch and not like in German, yeah? Is it hypothetical or past?

(After all, Malagasy exists. And from what I remember the grammar is quite Austronesian.)

Ha byoi zyange nga, doi ze ba go Qosonizya. Nai mwemwe dzilo ngegyo gilosi.
Ha pioʻi siange nga, doʻi se pa ko ʻOsonizya. Naʻi muemue tsilo ngekio gilosi.
If you mean my language, it's not really like Austronesian. Maybe I should start writing glosses again.

Kue ha naʻi li ngekio siyi ʻu kona, toʻi muemue nefue ʻu li ki Banitu ʻu li pa ʻOsonizya.
And if I start writing it like this, then maybe it starts to look less Bantu and more Austronesian.

[Travis B.]

diftong

Ik skulde seggen, dat file engeliske spraakwarieteten heb /p/ and nicht /f/ in dit word.
I should say that many English varieties have /p/ and not /f/ in this word.

Wi nge "varieties" do, ndzwai myegi ndze vwendye u vwegyo. I zei yui zyange vubu. Dwehii banggwa ngegyo zyi nggwe zyi vyudyi ⟨h⟩ do li ngengga /f/ u ha dwei negu ndozya ngegyo.
ʻUi nge "varieties" to, nitsuāʻi mieki nitsē fuenitiē ʻu fuekio. ʻI seʻi ʻiuʻi siange fupu. Tuehiʻi panikuā ngekio siyi nikuē siyi fiutiyi ⟨h⟩ to li ngenikā /f/ ʻu ha tueʻi neku nitōsia ngekio.
When you say varieties, it's just people who didn't read it carefully. It's not like it's dialect. They often write it without the ⟨h⟩ and then start pronouncing it with /f/ when they realise how to spell it correctly.

/p/ is funden meer in amerikaniske engelisk and /f/ is funden meer daarauter, doch dat is nicht fullig waar.
/p/ is found more in American English and /f/ is found more outside of it, but that is not entirely true.

Als ik kristen war, skulde ik seggen "Hi is upstaan".

Nai zamu zyu "als"-i go dyi ya Datyi u ze go dyi ya Dyamani, ha? I ha gwo ha zi?
Naʻi samu siu "als"-ʻi ko tiyi ʻia Datyi ʻu se ko diyi ʻia Dyamani, ha? I ha kuo ha si?
I'm assuming the "als" is like in Dutch and not like in German, yeah? Is it hypothetical or past?

Dat war hypotheticalisk, wail ik bin nicht kristen.
That was hypothetical, as I am not Christian.

[jal]

Dat war hypotheticalisk, wail ik bin nicht kristen.

Wo gol yu af diftong de "wail"? Ina Ingles, Jahman an Olandes it a leta tahn, gwon ota long /i/.
Why the diphthing in "wail"? In English, Germand and Dutch it's a later development, based on long /i/.


JAL

[Travis B.]

Dat war hypotheticalisk, wail ik bin nicht kristen.

Wo gol yu af diftong de "wail"? Ina Ingles, Jahman an Olandes it a leta tahn, gwon ota long /i/.
Why the diphthing in "wail"? In English, Germand and Dutch it's a later development, based on long /i/.

Ik wait het.
I know.

Hiir is main grund, dat ik maak diphthongen fan aldwestgermaniske lange hoge vokalen naach ard fan engelisk, daütisk and nederlandisk, wail twiskengermanisk is en helpspraak and dit is de meerheedautslag in westgermaniske, doch het is de konserwatiweste autslag in naüwestgermanisk nicht.
My reason here is that I am doing diphthongization of PWGmc long high vowels on the model of English, German, and Dutch because Twiskengermanisk is an auxlang and this is the majority outcome in WGmc, even though it is not the most conservative outcome in modern WGmc.

[jal]

My reason here is that I am doing diphthongization of PWGmc long high vowels on the model of English, German, and Dutch because Twiskengermanisk is an auxlang and this is the majority outcome in WGmc, even though it is not the most conservative outcome in modern WGmc.

Mi cende, bles!
I got it, thanks!


JAL

[/ˌnɐ.ˈɾɛn.dɚ.ˌduːd/]

/p/ is funden meer in amerikaniske engelisk and /f/ is funden meer daarauter, doch dat is nicht fullig waar.
/p/ is found more in American English and /f/ is found more outside of it, but that is not entirely true.

Hakkĕ Enlickĕ Amlikak fuvlisk /f/ ci 'diphthong' lăzza.
My own dialect of American English uses /f/ in 'diphthong'.

[naz]

ya ano na'oha tena ketsuan mo'a
VOC again one-AUG 2sg-P.1sg resolution-ACC explanation
Explain the solution to me one more time.

[Travis B.]

/p/ is funden meer in amerikaniske engelisk and /f/ is funden meer daarauter, doch dat is nicht fullig waar.
/p/ is found more in American English and /f/ is found more outside of it, but that is not entirely true.

Hakkĕ Enlickĕ Amlikak fuvlisk /f/ ci 'diphthong' lăzza.
My own dialect of American English uses /f/ in 'diphthong'.

/f/ in 'diphthong' füül intuitiw tu mi als en rechtskraiwingautspraak.
/f/ in 'diphthong' intuitively feels to me like a spelling pronunciation.

[jal]

/f/ in 'diphthong' intuitively feels to me like a spelling pronunciation.

Why? It's mono-phtong and di-phtong, quite transparently.


JAL

[Imralu]

/f/ in 'diphthong' füül intuitiw tu mi als en rechtskraiwingautspraak.
/f/ in 'diphthong' intuitively feels to me like a spelling pronunciation.

Mi ngai zyu /p/ wi nge dyi 'diphthong'-i hendwa nde ngengga u ye dzozye zyi lo vwegyo u vindwa.
/p/ in diphthong intuitively feels to me like a misreading pronunciation.

[Travis B.]

[ˈmɐl ˈjɐɲ tsʰɛhajβˈʃɐʎβə ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰɪ ɲɛˈɣawb ˈʁoɲ tsʰɛˈhol]
/ˈmɐl ˈjɐɲ tsʰehajβˈʃɐʎβɐ ˈqʼartsʰɐ ˈmatsʰi ɲeˈɣawb ˈʁoɲ tsʰeˈhol/
Mál yáň tsehàyvšáľva q'ârtsa mâtsi ňegjâwb góň tsehól.
mál yáň tse=hày=v=šá-ľva q'ârts-a mâts-i ňe=gjâwb góň tse=hól
sky STAT 3.S.M.ANIM=3.P.M.INAN=OBL.3.S.M.INAN=DAT-bring.STAT myriad-CONST thing-P.M COMP=humankind PRES.PFV 3.S.M.ANIM=nurture.PFV

[ˈɣawb ˈjɐɲ tsʰɛβˈjeːʃɪ ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbat̪ʰ tsʰɛjɛʃˈrɐhlr ˈmɐl]
/ˈɣawb ˈjɐɲ tsʰeβˈjeːʃi ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbat̪ʰ tsʰejeʃˈrɐhlr ˈmɐl/
Gjâwb yáň tsevyéeši mât bât tseyešráhlr mál.
gjâwb yáň tse=v=yée-š-i mât bât tse=ye-š-ráhl-r mál
humankind STAT 3.S.M.ANIM=3.S.M.INAN=NEG-DAT-exist.STAT thing good 3.S.M.ANIM=PART-DAT-give_back.IPFV-INV sky

[aqʰɔˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰɔˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰɔˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰɔˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰɔˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰɔˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰɔˈtsʰɐd̪]
/aqʰoˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰoˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰoˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰoˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰoˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰoˈtsʰɐd̪ | aqʰoˈtsʰɐd̪/
Àqtsád. Àqtsád. Àqtsád. Àqtsád. Àqtsád. Àqtsád. Àqtsád.
àqts-ád | àqts-ád | àqts-ád | àqts-ád | àqts-ád | àqts-ád | àqts-ád
die.IMP-CAUS | die.IMP-CAUS | die.IMP-CAUS | die.IMP-CAUS | die.IMP-CAUS | die.IMP-CAUS | die.IMP-CAUS

For those who can't figure out these without a translation:

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Heaven brings forth innumerable things to nurture man.
Man has nothing good with which to recompense Heaven.
Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.

[xxx]

c·z¨¼c¹d·Jcª¹¼c¹c·­
(my incomprehension of words of you and not named as words of us...)
Please translate...

[jal]

sky STAT 3.S.M.ANIM=3.P.M.INAN=OBL.3.S.M.INAN=DAT-bring.STAT myriad-CONST thing-P.M COMP=humankind PRES.PFV 3.S.M.ANIM=nurture.PFV

Dem won tahn :).
They're lacking a translation :).


JAL

[Imralu]

I nu.
It's a thing.

Lodzai no zyi bawe zyamo vavyu ngo.
[ˈlɔd͡zɐɪ̯ ˈnɔ ʒɪ ˌbɐwɛ ˌʒɐmɔ ˌvɐvjʊ ˈŋɔ]

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lo-dza                            =i   no    zyi   ba-we        zya-mo             va-vyu    ngo
situation-maintain.divine.balanceᴬ=COP emitᴬ R.DSᴱ intenseᴱ-PLᴱ suitableᴱ-consumeᴬ allᴱ-type person

Vavyu ngoi ze no ho u zyedzi lodza.
[ˌvɐvjʊ ˈŋɔɪ̯ ˌzɛ ˌnɔ ˈhɔʊ̯ ˌʒɛd͡zɪ ˈlɔd͡zɐ]

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va-vyu    ngo   =i   ze   no    ho    u   zye-dzi       lo-dza
allᴱ-type person=COP NEGᴱ emitᴬ goodᴱ SIT cause-returnᴬ situation-maintain.divine.balanceᴬ

Nggu. Nggu. Nggu. Nggu. Nggu. Nggu. Nggu.
[ˈ^ŋɡʊ ˈ^ŋɡʊ ˈ^ŋɡʊ ˈ^ŋɡʊ ˈ^ŋɡʊ ˈ^ŋɡʊ ˈ^ŋɡʊ]

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nggu  | nggu  | nggu  | nggu  | nggu  | nggu  | nggu 
killᴬ | killᴬ | killᴬ | killᴬ | killᴬ | killᴬ | killᴬ   

[xxx]

t¾¹>«©dº¹{«©½d¸
(this slab covered by this text ununderstood by me...)
I never understood this text...

[Nortaneous]

Wij zood een maximaal silly (untranslatable) weestgermaanish Spreek hebben. Uck bung der nog steeds mud dem Klonkweete beezig, eggter het zoo der zaauw wtzeen. Het wurdt noomt Tootish.
[wʌi̯ zuːd ən mæksɪmɑːɫ sɪɫiː wiːstχɚmɑːnɪʃ ʃpɻiːk hɛbm̩. ʔʌk bʌŋ dɚ nɒχ ʃtiːts mʌd dəm tɫɒŋkwiːʔə biːzɪχ ʔɛχtɚ ʔ zuː dɚ zɑu̯ ʔyːʔziːn. ʔ wɚʔ nuːmʔ tuːʔɪʃ]

[/ˌnɐ.ˈɾɛn.dɚ.ˌduːd/]

t¾¹>«©dº¹{«©½d¸

Yt Muiˀënlä Läutsta Ästysta.
That's the Seven Kill Stele.

[xxx]

uº^Ë\Œ¼ºÎ
(words about killing and incomprehensible...)
what does those "kill" ever mean...

[xxx]

Wij zood een maximaal silly (untranslatable) weestgermaanish Spreek hebben. Uck bung der nog steeds mud dem Klonkweete beezig, eggter het zoo der zaauw wtzeen. Het wurdt noomt Tootish.
[wʌi̯ zuːd ən mæksɪmɑːɫ sɪɫiː wiːstχɚmɑːnɪʃ ʃpɻiːk hɛbm̩. ʔʌk bʌŋ dɚ nɒχ ʃtiːts mʌd dəm tɫɒŋkwiːʔə biːzɪχ ʔɛχtɚ ʔ zuː dɚ zɑu̯ ʔyːʔziːn. ʔ wɚʔ nuːmʔ tuːʔɪʃ]

c·z¨¼c¹d·Jcª¹¼c¹c·­
(my incomprehension of words of you and not named as words of us...)
Please translate...