Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

[Travis B.]

/reˈhəʎə ˈkʰapʰ/ Rehaľa Kâp

Vowels:

Unstressed:

/i u/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <e a o>
/a/ <à>

/ĩ ũ/ <iñ uñ>
/ẽ ə̃ õ/ <eñ añ oñ>
/ã/ <àñ>

Stressed:

/i u/ <í ú>
/e ə o/ <é á ó>
/a/ <â>

/ĩ ũ/ <íñ úñ>
/ẽ ə̃ õ/ <éñ áñ óñ>
/ã/ <âñ>

/iː uː/ <ī ū>
/eː əː oː/ <ē ā ō>
/aː/ <ã>

Consonants:

/m n ɲ/ <m n ń>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b d ď dz dž>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p t ť ts tš c k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <th ťh tsh tšh ch kh qh>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s š ś x̌ x h>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <v đ z ž ǧ g>
/r l ʎ/ <r l ľ>
/w j/ <w y>

/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/

Tsehâyľva mál qhârtsa mâtsya ša ńet'hoľtse ǧâwb.
Batyešyár ǧâwb mât bãta cāšya ńetašráśľtse mál.
Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd.

[Karch]

/i u/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <e a o>
/a/ <â>

/ĩ ũ/ <i' u'>
/ẽ ə̃ õ/ <e' a' o'>
/ã/ <â'>

/iː uː/ <ii uu>
/eː əː oː/ <ee ae oo>
/aː/ <aa>

/m n ɲ/ <m n ny>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b d dh dz j>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p t th ts ch ky k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <tt tth tts cch kky kk qq>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s sh xy x xh h>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <v dz z zh gh qh>
/r l ʎ/ <r l lh>
/w j/ <w y>

/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/

Tsehâylhva mal qqârtsa mâtsya sha nyet'holhtse ghâwb.
Batyeshyar ghâwb mât baata kyaeshya nyetashraxlhtse mal.
Âqodd.

[foxcatdog]

*b *d *ɟ *g
*p *t *c *k *kʷ
*pʰ *tʰ *cʰ *kʰ *kʷʰ *qʰ *qʷʰ
*pˀ *tˀ *cˀ *kˀ *kʷˀ *qˀ *qʷˀ
*ts *tʂ *tʃʷ *tɕ
*tsʰ *tʂʰ *tʃʷʰ *tɕʰ
*tsˀ *tʂˀ *tʃʷˀ *tɕˀ
*z *ʒ
*s *ʃ
*ɾ *ɽ
*l *ɭ *ʎ
*lˀ *ɺˀ
*β *w *j
*βˀ *wˀ *jˀ *ɰˀ
*m *n
*mˀ *nˀ *ŋˀ

*i *u
*e *o
*ɛ
*a

*au

CMVVF syllable structure maximally
Medials were limited to *β *w and *j as well as *ɰˀ after glottalised consonants. The other glides are also glottalised after glottals.
Vowel sequences are limited to *au
Finals were limited to *m *n *s *ʃ *l *ɭ *ʎ

[Nortaneous]

/i u/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <e o ou>
/a/ <a>

/ĩ ũ/ <iñ uñ...>

/iː uː/ <ii uu...>

Stress: <à> (when not penultimate)

/m n ɲ/ <m n ny>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b dh d dz j>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p th t ts ch ky k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <th' t' ts' ch' k'y k' q'>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s š hy x x̌ h>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <v đ z ž gh ř>
/r l ʎ/ <r ł l>
/w j/ <w y>

/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/

Tsehailvo moł q'artso matsyo šo nyethhoultse ghawb.
Bothyešyòr ghawb math baatho kyooše nyethošrohyltse mol.
Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh.

[Travis B.]

/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b dh d dz j>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p th t ts ch ky k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <th' t' ts' ch' k'y k' q'>

(Emphasis mine)

Just as a note, dental stops are far more common than alveolar stops, which only occur when dental stops in the protolanguage were palatalized and also were positioned before another consonant so they did not affricate.

[foxcatdog]

*ɓ *tˀ
*b *d *dʒ~g
*p *t *tʃ~k *ʔ
*pʰ *tʰ *h
*β *s *ʃ *x *ɦ
*w *ɹ *j
*l *ʟ
*ɾ *ʀ
*N

*i *y *ɯ *u
*e *ø
*ɛ *ɔ *ɔ:
*a *a:

CGVF syllable structure
Where G is a non-lateral approximant and *F is *s, *ʃ, *x, *l, *ʟ or N and C is any consonant other than N
N always surfaces as nasalisation and lengthening of the following vowel. Long counterparts of short vowels were still contrasted before it by being long
Velars are allophonically palatised before front vowels.

*ɓɛɹikɯ “endonym” *bɹa “one” *ʃal “two” *xuN “three” *tʰja: “four” *tʃjɔ:N “five” *kuNʟy “buttock” *kuNtʰøs “tail” *tˀedi “tadpole” *sjas “red/blood/tree sap” *ɦawa: “sky” *βɔNɾyN “chief” *hɯʔɯtʃi “snake” *dʒeʟ “star” *pʰapuʔi “leaf” *bada:N “soul/wind” *tʰwax “loud fart/lightning” *lax “tropical redflesh fish” *pjɯN “mongoose” *xasdji “moon” *sɔ: “sun” *haN “mother/young woman/child” *βaNβwu “wetnurse” *tˀa:ga: “foxfolk” *pʰɹɯx “arctic fox” *dɔʟ “dog/junior partner in a hunt/female hunter” *dʒɛʟjø “axe” *sɹøʀy “shadow mongoose” *ʟuxtˀi “light/fire” *dɔssɔN “water”
*βahu “strong” *wix “shadow” *jaʃ “wave” *da:N “sea” *jestʰø “to leave behind” *kɯʟ “to charm/woo” *ʃeɾy “older woman/healer” *wɛN “puppy/kitten/kit/cub” *ɹwɔdu “(of animals) to kill”

[/ˌnɐ.ˈɾɛn.dɚ.ˌduːd/]

*ɓ *tˀ - b' t'
*b *d *dʒ~g - b d g
*p *t *tʃ~k *ʔ - p t k '
*pʰ *tʰ *h - ph th h
*β *s *ʃ *x *ɦ - v s x c hh
*w *ɹ *j - w r y
*l *ʟ - l lg
*ɾ *ʀ - rr rg
*N - n

*i *y *ɯ *u - i ui iu u
*e *ø - ei oe
*ɛ *ɔ *ɔ: - e o ou
*a *a: - a ae

*ɓɛɹikɯ “endonym” *bɹa “one” *ʃal “two” *xuN “three” *tʰja: “four” *tʃjɔ:N “five” *kuNʟy “buttock” *kuNtʰøs “tail” *tˀedi “tadpole” *sjas “red/blood/tree sap” *ɦawa: “sky” *βɔNɾyN “chief” *hɯʔɯtʃi “snake” *dʒeʟ “star” *pʰapuʔi “leaf” *bada:N “soul/wind” *tʰwax “loud fart/lightning” *lax “tropical redflesh fish” *pjɯN “mongoose” *xasdji “moon” *sɔ: “sun” *haN “mother/young woman/child” *βaNβwu “wetnurse” *tˀa:ga: “foxfolk” *pʰɹɯx “arctic fox” *dɔʟ “dog/junior partner in a hunt/female hunter” *dʒɛʟjø “axe” *sɹøʀy “shadow mongoose” *ʟuxtˀi “light/fire” *dɔssɔN “water”
*βahu “strong” *wix “shadow” *jaʃ “wave” *da:N “sea” *jestʰø “to leave behind” *kɯʟ “to charm/woo” *ʃeɾy “older woman/healer” *wɛN “puppy/kitten/kit/cub” *ɹwɔdu “(of animals) to kill”

b'erikiu, bra, xal, cun, thya, kyoun, kunlgui, kunthoes, t'eidi, syas, hhawae, vonrruin, hiu'iuki, gelg, phapu'i, badaen, thwac, lac, pyiun, casdyi, sou, han, vanvwu, t'aegae, phriuc, dolg, gelgyoe, sroergui, lguct'i, dosson, vahu, wic, yax, daen, yeisthoe, kiul, xerrui, wen, rwodu

[Nortaneous]

Unstressed:
/i u/ <É 8>
/e ə o/ <A E Ó>
/a/ <O>
/jə aj/ <Ʉ I>
Stressed (when not penultimate if slashed/barred; <U> isn't written word-finally):
/i u/ <Ɇ 8́>
/e ə o/ <Á U Ø>
/a/ <Ɵ>
/jə aj/ <EU Í>

/ĩ ũ/ <É̱ 8̱...>

/m n ɲ/ <M N Ń>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <B D Ɉ J J́>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <P T Ꞓ C Ć Ḱ K Ꝁ>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <Ț Ꞓ̦ C̦ Ć̦ Ḱ̦ K̦ Ꝁ̦>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <S Ś Ꟊ X H́ H>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <Ḇ Ḏ Z Ź G̱ H̱>
/r l ʎ/ <R Ƚ L>
/w j/ <W E>

length <ʼ>

/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/

CAHÍLḆE MUȽ Ꝁ̦ORCE MOCɄ ŚE ŃATHØLCA G̱OWB
BETEAŚEUR G̱OWB MOT BƟʼTE ḰEʼŚɄ ŃATEŚRUꟉLCA MUL
OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ

or if you prefer

Unstressed:
/i u/ <é ꝏ>
/e ə o/ <a e ó>
/a/ <o>
/jə aj/ <u i>
Stressed
/i u/ <éʻ ꝏʻ>
/e ə o/ <aʻ eʻ óʻ>
/a/ <oʻ>
/jə aj/ <uʻ iʻ>

length <꞉>

Cehilḇe meƚ ꝁ̦orce mocu śe ńathólca ḡowb.
Beteaśuʻr ḡowb mot bo꞉te ḱe꞉śu ńateśreʻꞩlca meƚ.
Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉.

[bradrn]

Ah, the Saanich strategy!

[Nortaneous]

/i u/ <ꓲ ꓴ>
/e ə o/ <ꓰ ꓷ ꓳ>
/a/ <ꓮ/0>
/jə aj/ <ꓱ ꓯ>

/m n ɲ/ <ꓟ ꓠ ꓠꓬ>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <ꓐ ꓓ ꓜ ꓜ ꓙ ꓖ>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <ꓒ ꓕ ꓞ ꓞ ꓛ ꓘꓬ ꓘ ꓥ>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <ꓔ ꓝ ꓝ ꓚ ꓗ ꓗꓬ ꓦ>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <ꓢ ꓢꓬ ꓫꓬ ꓫ ꓧ ꓧ>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <ꓩ ꓤ ꓣ ꓣꓬ ꓭ ꓭ>
/r l ʎ/ <ꓶ ꓡ ꓡꓬ>
/w j/ <ꓪ/-ꓳ ꓬ>

short, stressed <ꓼ>
short, unstressed <0>
long, stressed <ꓸ>
long, unstressed <ꓽ>
nasal <ʼ>

/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/

ꓞꓰ-ꓧꓯꓼ-ꓡꓬꓩꓷ ꓟꓷꓡ ꓦꓼ-ꓶꓞꓷ ꓟꓼ-ꓞꓱ ꓢꓬꓷ ꓠꓬꓰ-ꓕꓧꓳꓼ-ꓡꓬꓞꓰ ꓭꓮꓳꓐ꓿
ꓐꓷ-ꓕꓬꓰ-ꓢꓬꓱꓶꓼ ꓭꓮꓳꓐ ꓟꓮꓕ ꓐꓸ-ꓕꓷ ꓗꓬꓷꓸ-ꓢꓬꓱ ꓠꓬꓰ-ꓕꓷ-ꓢꓬꓶꓼ-ꓫꓬꓡꓬꓞꓰ ꓟꓷꓡ꓿
ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿

or if you prefer

/i u/ <i ʚ>
/e ə jə o/ <e æ ɛ œ>
/a/ <a>

rotate for stress

/m n ɲ/ <m n u>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b d dh dʒ ƹb>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <π t th c ch kh k ᵹ>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <ʇ ɥʇ ɔ ɥɔ ɥʞ ʞ ʞ ꝿ>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s ƨ 𝈑𝼁 gh ɥᵷ x>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <q p ʒ ƹ g ᵷ>
/r l ʎ/ <r ɼ ɺ>
/w j/ <o 𝼁>

Cexɐ𝼁ɺqæ mᴂl ꝿɐrcæ mɐcɛ ƨæ uetxᴔɺce gɐob.
Bæt𝼁eƨᴈr gɐob mɐt bɐɐtæ khᴂᴂƨɛ uetæƨrᴂ𝈑𝼁ɺce mᴂl.
Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd.