Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/reˈhəʎə ˈkʰapʰ/ Rehaľa Kâp
Vowels:
Unstressed:
/i u/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <e a o>
/a/ <à>
/ĩ ũ/ <iñ uñ>
/ẽ ə̃ õ/ <eñ añ oñ>
/ã/ <àñ>
Stressed:
/i u/ <í ú>
/e ə o/ <é á ó>
/a/ <â>
/ĩ ũ/ <íñ úñ>
/ẽ ə̃ õ/ <éñ áñ óñ>
/ã/ <âñ>
/iː uː/ <ī ū>
/eː əː oː/ <ē ā ō>
/aː/ <ã>
Consonants:
/m n ɲ/ <m n ń>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b d ď dz dž>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p t ť ts tš c k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <th ťh tsh tšh ch kh qh>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s š ś x̌ x h>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <v đ z ž ǧ g>
/r l ʎ/ <r l ľ>
/w j/ <w y>
/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/
Tsehâyľva mál qhârtsa mâtsya ša ńet'hoľtse ǧâwb.
Batyešyár ǧâwb mât bãta cāšya ńetašráśľtse mál.
Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd.
Vowels:
Unstressed:
/i u/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <e a o>
/a/ <à>
/ĩ ũ/ <iñ uñ>
/ẽ ə̃ õ/ <eñ añ oñ>
/ã/ <àñ>
Stressed:
/i u/ <í ú>
/e ə o/ <é á ó>
/a/ <â>
/ĩ ũ/ <íñ úñ>
/ẽ ə̃ õ/ <éñ áñ óñ>
/ã/ <âñ>
/iː uː/ <ī ū>
/eː əː oː/ <ē ā ō>
/aː/ <ã>
Consonants:
/m n ɲ/ <m n ń>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b d ď dz dž>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p t ť ts tš c k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <th ťh tsh tšh ch kh qh>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s š ś x̌ x h>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <v đ z ž ǧ g>
/r l ʎ/ <r l ľ>
/w j/ <w y>
/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/
Tsehâyľva mál qhârtsa mâtsya ša ńet'hoľtse ǧâwb.
Batyešyár ǧâwb mât bãta cāšya ńetašráśľtse mál.
Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd. Àqodd.
Last edited by Travis B. on Fri Apr 17, 2026 12:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/i u/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <e a o>
/a/ <â>
/ĩ ũ/ <i' u'>
/ẽ ə̃ õ/ <e' a' o'>
/ã/ <â'>
/iː uː/ <ii uu>
/eː əː oː/ <ee ae oo>
/aː/ <aa>
/m n ɲ/ <m n ny>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b d dh dz j>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p t th ts ch ky k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <tt tth tts cch kky kk qq>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s sh xy x xh h>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <v dz z zh gh qh>
/r l ʎ/ <r l lh>
/w j/ <w y>
/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/
Tsehâylhva mal qqârtsa mâtsya sha nyet'holhtse ghâwb.
Batyeshyar ghâwb mât baata kyaeshya nyetashraxlhtse mal.
Âqodd.
/e ə o/ <e a o>
/a/ <â>
/ĩ ũ/ <i' u'>
/ẽ ə̃ õ/ <e' a' o'>
/ã/ <â'>
/iː uː/ <ii uu>
/eː əː oː/ <ee ae oo>
/aː/ <aa>
/m n ɲ/ <m n ny>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b d dh dz j>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p t th ts ch ky k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <tt tth tts cch kky kk qq>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s sh xy x xh h>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <v dz z zh gh qh>
/r l ʎ/ <r l lh>
/w j/ <w y>
/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/
Tsehâylhva mal qqârtsa mâtsya sha nyet'holhtse ghâwb.
Batyeshyar ghâwb mât baata kyaeshya nyetashraxlhtse mal.
Âqodd.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
*b *d *ɟ *g
*p *t *c *k *kʷ
*pʰ *tʰ *cʰ *kʰ *kʷʰ *qʰ *qʷʰ
*pˀ *tˀ *cˀ *kˀ *kʷˀ *qˀ *qʷˀ
*ts *tʂ *tʃʷ *tɕ
*tsʰ *tʂʰ *tʃʷʰ *tɕʰ
*tsˀ *tʂˀ *tʃʷˀ *tɕˀ
*z *ʒ
*s *ʃ
*ɾ *ɽ
*l *ɭ *ʎ
*lˀ *ɺˀ
*β *w *j
*βˀ *wˀ *jˀ *ɰˀ
*m *n
*mˀ *nˀ *ŋˀ
*i *u
*e *o
*ɛ
*a
*au
CMVVF syllable structure maximally
Medials were limited to *β *w and *j as well as *ɰˀ after glottalised consonants. The other glides are also glottalised after glottals.
Vowel sequences are limited to *au
Finals were limited to *m *n *s *ʃ *l *ɭ *ʎ
*p *t *c *k *kʷ
*pʰ *tʰ *cʰ *kʰ *kʷʰ *qʰ *qʷʰ
*pˀ *tˀ *cˀ *kˀ *kʷˀ *qˀ *qʷˀ
*ts *tʂ *tʃʷ *tɕ
*tsʰ *tʂʰ *tʃʷʰ *tɕʰ
*tsˀ *tʂˀ *tʃʷˀ *tɕˀ
*z *ʒ
*s *ʃ
*ɾ *ɽ
*l *ɭ *ʎ
*lˀ *ɺˀ
*β *w *j
*βˀ *wˀ *jˀ *ɰˀ
*m *n
*mˀ *nˀ *ŋˀ
*i *u
*e *o
*ɛ
*a
*au
CMVVF syllable structure maximally
Medials were limited to *β *w and *j as well as *ɰˀ after glottalised consonants. The other glides are also glottalised after glottals.
Vowel sequences are limited to *au
Finals were limited to *m *n *s *ʃ *l *ɭ *ʎ
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/i u/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <e o ou>
/a/ <a>
/ĩ ũ/ <iñ uñ...>
/iː uː/ <ii uu...>
Stress: <à> (when not penultimate)
/m n ɲ/ <m n ny>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b dh d dz j>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p th t ts ch ky k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <th' t' ts' ch' k'y k' q'>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s š hy x x̌ h>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <v đ z ž gh ř>
/r l ʎ/ <r ł l>
/w j/ <w y>
/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/
Tsehailvo moł q'artso matsyo šo nyethhoultse ghawb.
Bothyešyòr ghawb math baatho kyooše nyethošrohyltse mol.
Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh.
/e ə o/ <e o ou>
/a/ <a>
/ĩ ũ/ <iñ uñ...>
/iː uː/ <ii uu...>
Stress: <à> (when not penultimate)
/m n ɲ/ <m n ny>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b dh d dz j>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p th t ts ch ky k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <th' t' ts' ch' k'y k' q'>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s š hy x x̌ h>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <v đ z ž gh ř>
/r l ʎ/ <r ł l>
/w j/ <w y>
/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/
Tsehailvo moł q'artso matsyo šo nyethhoultse ghawb.
Bothyešyòr ghawb math baatho kyooše nyethošrohyltse mol.
Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh. Aqoùddh.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
(Emphasis mine)Nortaneous wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 1:52 pm /b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b dh d dz j>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p th t ts ch ky k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <th' t' ts' ch' k'y k' q'>
Just as a note, dental stops are far more common than alveolar stops, which only occur when dental stops in the protolanguage were palatalized and also were positioned before another consonant so they did not affricate.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
*ɓ *tˀ
*b *d *dʒ~g
*p *t *tʃ~k *ʔ
*pʰ *tʰ *h
*β *s *ʃ *x *ɦ
*w *ɹ *j
*l *ʟ
*ɾ *ʀ
*N
*i *y *ɯ *u
*e *ø
*ɛ *ɔ *ɔ:
*a *a:
CGVF syllable structure
Where G is a non-lateral approximant and *F is *s, *ʃ, *x, *l, *ʟ or N and C is any consonant other than N
N always surfaces as nasalisation and lengthening of the following vowel. Long counterparts of short vowels were still contrasted before it by being long
Velars are allophonically palatised before front vowels.
*ɓɛɹikɯ “endonym” *bɹa “one” *ʃal “two” *xuN “three” *tʰja: “four” *tʃjɔ:N “five” *kuNʟy “buttock” *kuNtʰøs “tail” *tˀedi “tadpole” *sjas “red/blood/tree sap” *ɦawa: “sky” *βɔNɾyN “chief” *hɯʔɯtʃi “snake” *dʒeʟ “star” *pʰapuʔi “leaf” *bada:N “soul/wind” *tʰwax “loud fart/lightning” *lax “tropical redflesh fish” *pjɯN “mongoose” *xasdji “moon” *sɔ: “sun” *haN “mother/young woman/child” *βaNβwu “wetnurse” *tˀa:ga: “foxfolk” *pʰɹɯx “arctic fox” *dɔʟ “dog/junior partner in a hunt/female hunter” *dʒɛʟjø “axe” *sɹøʀy “shadow mongoose” *ʟuxtˀi “light/fire” *dɔssɔN “water”
*βahu “strong” *wix “shadow” *jaʃ “wave” *da:N “sea” *jestʰø “to leave behind” *kɯʟ “to charm/woo” *ʃeɾy “older woman/healer” *wɛN “puppy/kitten/kit/cub” *ɹwɔdu “(of animals) to kill”
*b *d *dʒ~g
*p *t *tʃ~k *ʔ
*pʰ *tʰ *h
*β *s *ʃ *x *ɦ
*w *ɹ *j
*l *ʟ
*ɾ *ʀ
*N
*i *y *ɯ *u
*e *ø
*ɛ *ɔ *ɔ:
*a *a:
CGVF syllable structure
Where G is a non-lateral approximant and *F is *s, *ʃ, *x, *l, *ʟ or N and C is any consonant other than N
N always surfaces as nasalisation and lengthening of the following vowel. Long counterparts of short vowels were still contrasted before it by being long
Velars are allophonically palatised before front vowels.
*ɓɛɹikɯ “endonym” *bɹa “one” *ʃal “two” *xuN “three” *tʰja: “four” *tʃjɔ:N “five” *kuNʟy “buttock” *kuNtʰøs “tail” *tˀedi “tadpole” *sjas “red/blood/tree sap” *ɦawa: “sky” *βɔNɾyN “chief” *hɯʔɯtʃi “snake” *dʒeʟ “star” *pʰapuʔi “leaf” *bada:N “soul/wind” *tʰwax “loud fart/lightning” *lax “tropical redflesh fish” *pjɯN “mongoose” *xasdji “moon” *sɔ: “sun” *haN “mother/young woman/child” *βaNβwu “wetnurse” *tˀa:ga: “foxfolk” *pʰɹɯx “arctic fox” *dɔʟ “dog/junior partner in a hunt/female hunter” *dʒɛʟjø “axe” *sɹøʀy “shadow mongoose” *ʟuxtˀi “light/fire” *dɔssɔN “water”
*βahu “strong” *wix “shadow” *jaʃ “wave” *da:N “sea” *jestʰø “to leave behind” *kɯʟ “to charm/woo” *ʃeɾy “older woman/healer” *wɛN “puppy/kitten/kit/cub” *ɹwɔdu “(of animals) to kill”
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
*ɓ *tˀ - b' t'
*b *d *dʒ~g - b d g
*p *t *tʃ~k *ʔ - p t k '
*pʰ *tʰ *h - ph th h
*β *s *ʃ *x *ɦ - v s x c hh
*w *ɹ *j - w r y
*l *ʟ - l lg
*ɾ *ʀ - rr rg
*N - n
*i *y *ɯ *u - i ui iu u
*e *ø - ei oe
*ɛ *ɔ *ɔ: - e o ou
*a *a: - a ae
*ɓɛɹikɯ “endonym” *bɹa “one” *ʃal “two” *xuN “three” *tʰja: “four” *tʃjɔ:N “five” *kuNʟy “buttock” *kuNtʰøs “tail” *tˀedi “tadpole” *sjas “red/blood/tree sap” *ɦawa: “sky” *βɔNɾyN “chief” *hɯʔɯtʃi “snake” *dʒeʟ “star” *pʰapuʔi “leaf” *bada:N “soul/wind” *tʰwax “loud fart/lightning” *lax “tropical redflesh fish” *pjɯN “mongoose” *xasdji “moon” *sɔ: “sun” *haN “mother/young woman/child” *βaNβwu “wetnurse” *tˀa:ga: “foxfolk” *pʰɹɯx “arctic fox” *dɔʟ “dog/junior partner in a hunt/female hunter” *dʒɛʟjø “axe” *sɹøʀy “shadow mongoose” *ʟuxtˀi “light/fire” *dɔssɔN “water”
*βahu “strong” *wix “shadow” *jaʃ “wave” *da:N “sea” *jestʰø “to leave behind” *kɯʟ “to charm/woo” *ʃeɾy “older woman/healer” *wɛN “puppy/kitten/kit/cub” *ɹwɔdu “(of animals) to kill”
b'erikiu, bra, xal, cun, thya, kyoun, kunlgui, kunthoes, t'eidi, syas, hhawae, vonrruin, hiu'iuki, gelg, phapu'i, badaen, thwac, lac, pyiun, casdyi, sou, han, vanvwu, t'aegae, phriuc, dolg, gelgyoe, sroergui, lguct'i, dosson, vahu, wic, yax, daen, yeisthoe, kiul, xerrui, wen, rwodu
*b *d *dʒ~g - b d g
*p *t *tʃ~k *ʔ - p t k '
*pʰ *tʰ *h - ph th h
*β *s *ʃ *x *ɦ - v s x c hh
*w *ɹ *j - w r y
*l *ʟ - l lg
*ɾ *ʀ - rr rg
*N - n
*i *y *ɯ *u - i ui iu u
*e *ø - ei oe
*ɛ *ɔ *ɔ: - e o ou
*a *a: - a ae
*ɓɛɹikɯ “endonym” *bɹa “one” *ʃal “two” *xuN “three” *tʰja: “four” *tʃjɔ:N “five” *kuNʟy “buttock” *kuNtʰøs “tail” *tˀedi “tadpole” *sjas “red/blood/tree sap” *ɦawa: “sky” *βɔNɾyN “chief” *hɯʔɯtʃi “snake” *dʒeʟ “star” *pʰapuʔi “leaf” *bada:N “soul/wind” *tʰwax “loud fart/lightning” *lax “tropical redflesh fish” *pjɯN “mongoose” *xasdji “moon” *sɔ: “sun” *haN “mother/young woman/child” *βaNβwu “wetnurse” *tˀa:ga: “foxfolk” *pʰɹɯx “arctic fox” *dɔʟ “dog/junior partner in a hunt/female hunter” *dʒɛʟjø “axe” *sɹøʀy “shadow mongoose” *ʟuxtˀi “light/fire” *dɔssɔN “water”
*βahu “strong” *wix “shadow” *jaʃ “wave” *da:N “sea” *jestʰø “to leave behind” *kɯʟ “to charm/woo” *ʃeɾy “older woman/healer” *wɛN “puppy/kitten/kit/cub” *ɹwɔdu “(of animals) to kill”
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Unstressed:
/i u/ <É 8>
/e ə o/ <A E Ó>
/a/ <O>
/jə aj/ <Ʉ I>
Stressed (when not penultimate if slashed/barred; <U> isn't written word-finally):
/i u/ <Ɇ 8́>
/e ə o/ <Á U Ø>
/a/ <Ɵ>
/jə aj/ <EU Í>
/ĩ ũ/ <É̱ 8̱...>
/m n ɲ/ <M N Ń>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <B D Ɉ J J́>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <P T Ꞓ C Ć Ḱ K Ꝁ>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <Ț Ꞓ̦ C̦ Ć̦ Ḱ̦ K̦ Ꝁ̦>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <S Ś Ꟊ X H́ H>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <Ḇ Ḏ Z Ź G̱ H̱>
/r l ʎ/ <R Ƚ L>
/w j/ <W E>
length <ʼ>
/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/
CAHÍLḆE MUȽ Ꝁ̦ORCE MOCɄ ŚE ŃATHØLCA G̱OWB
BETEAŚEUR G̱OWB MOT BƟʼTE ḰEʼŚɄ ŃATEŚRUꟉLCA MUL
OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ
or if you prefer
Unstressed:
/i u/ <é ꝏ>
/e ə o/ <a e ó>
/a/ <o>
/jə aj/ <u i>
Stressed
/i u/ <éʻ ꝏʻ>
/e ə o/ <aʻ eʻ óʻ>
/a/ <oʻ>
/jə aj/ <uʻ iʻ>
length <꞉>
Cehilḇe meƚ ꝁ̦orce mocu śe ńathólca ḡowb.
Beteaśuʻr ḡowb mot bo꞉te ḱe꞉śu ńateśreʻꞩlca meƚ.
Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉.
/i u/ <É 8>
/e ə o/ <A E Ó>
/a/ <O>
/jə aj/ <Ʉ I>
Stressed (when not penultimate if slashed/barred; <U> isn't written word-finally):
/i u/ <Ɇ 8́>
/e ə o/ <Á U Ø>
/a/ <Ɵ>
/jə aj/ <EU Í>
/ĩ ũ/ <É̱ 8̱...>
/m n ɲ/ <M N Ń>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <B D Ɉ J J́>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <P T Ꞓ C Ć Ḱ K Ꝁ>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <Ț Ꞓ̦ C̦ Ć̦ Ḱ̦ K̦ Ꝁ̦>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <S Ś Ꟊ X H́ H>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <Ḇ Ḏ Z Ź G̱ H̱>
/r l ʎ/ <R Ƚ L>
/w j/ <W E>
length <ʼ>
/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/
CAHÍLḆE MUȽ Ꝁ̦ORCE MOCɄ ŚE ŃATHØLCA G̱OWB
BETEAŚEUR G̱OWB MOT BƟʼTE ḰEʼŚɄ ŃATEŚRUꟉLCA MUL
OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ OꝀØDʼ
or if you prefer
Unstressed:
/i u/ <é ꝏ>
/e ə o/ <a e ó>
/a/ <o>
/jə aj/ <u i>
Stressed
/i u/ <éʻ ꝏʻ>
/e ə o/ <aʻ eʻ óʻ>
/a/ <oʻ>
/jə aj/ <uʻ iʻ>
length <꞉>
Cehilḇe meƚ ꝁ̦orce mocu śe ńathólca ḡowb.
Beteaśuʻr ḡowb mot bo꞉te ḱe꞉śu ńateśreʻꞩlca meƚ.
Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉. Oꝁóʻd꞉.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Ah, the Saanich strategy!
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Other: Ergativity for Novices
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/i u/ <ꓲ ꓴ>
/e ə o/ <ꓰ ꓷ ꓳ>
/a/ <ꓮ/0>
/jə aj/ <ꓱ ꓯ>
/m n ɲ/ <ꓟ ꓠ ꓠꓬ>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <ꓐ ꓓ ꓜ ꓜ ꓙ ꓖ>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <ꓒ ꓕ ꓞ ꓞ ꓛ ꓘꓬ ꓘ ꓥ>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <ꓔ ꓝ ꓝ ꓚ ꓗ ꓗꓬ ꓦ>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <ꓢ ꓢꓬ ꓫꓬ ꓫ ꓧ ꓧ>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <ꓩ ꓤ ꓣ ꓣꓬ ꓭ ꓭ>
/r l ʎ/ <ꓶ ꓡ ꓡꓬ>
/w j/ <ꓪ/-ꓳ ꓬ>
short, stressed <ꓼ>
short, unstressed <0>
long, stressed <ꓸ>
long, unstressed <ꓽ>
nasal <ʼ>
/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/
ꓞꓰ-ꓧꓯꓼ-ꓡꓬꓩꓷ ꓟꓷꓡ ꓦꓼ-ꓶꓞꓷ ꓟꓼ-ꓞꓱ ꓢꓬꓷ ꓠꓬꓰ-ꓕꓧꓳꓼ-ꓡꓬꓞꓰ ꓭꓮꓳꓐ꓿
ꓐꓷ-ꓕꓬꓰ-ꓢꓬꓱꓶꓼ ꓭꓮꓳꓐ ꓟꓮꓕ ꓐꓸ-ꓕꓷ ꓗꓬꓷꓸ-ꓢꓬꓱ ꓠꓬꓰ-ꓕꓷ-ꓢꓬꓶꓼ-ꓫꓬꓡꓬꓞꓰ ꓟꓷꓡ꓿
ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿
or if you prefer
/i u/ <i ʚ>
/e ə jə o/ <e æ ɛ œ>
/a/ <a>
rotate for stress
/m n ɲ/ <m n u>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b d dh dʒ ƹb>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <π t th c ch kh k ᵹ>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <ʇ ɥʇ ɔ ɥɔ ɥʞ ʞ ʞ ꝿ>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s ƨ 𝈑𝼁 gh ɥᵷ x>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <q p ʒ ƹ g ᵷ>
/r l ʎ/ <r ɼ ɺ>
/w j/ <o 𝼁>
Cexɐ𝼁ɺqæ mᴂl ꝿɐrcæ mɐcɛ ƨæ uetxᴔɺce gɐob.
Bæt𝼁eƨᴈr gɐob mɐt bɐɐtæ khᴂᴂƨɛ uetæƨrᴂ𝈑𝼁ɺce mᴂl.
Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd.
/e ə o/ <ꓰ ꓷ ꓳ>
/a/ <ꓮ/0>
/jə aj/ <ꓱ ꓯ>
/m n ɲ/ <ꓟ ꓠ ꓠꓬ>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <ꓐ ꓓ ꓜ ꓜ ꓙ ꓖ>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <ꓒ ꓕ ꓞ ꓞ ꓛ ꓘꓬ ꓘ ꓥ>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <ꓔ ꓝ ꓝ ꓚ ꓗ ꓗꓬ ꓦ>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <ꓢ ꓢꓬ ꓫꓬ ꓫ ꓧ ꓧ>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <ꓩ ꓤ ꓣ ꓣꓬ ꓭ ꓭ>
/r l ʎ/ <ꓶ ꓡ ꓡꓬ>
/w j/ <ꓪ/-ꓳ ꓬ>
short, stressed <ꓼ>
short, unstressed <0>
long, stressed <ꓸ>
long, unstressed <ꓽ>
nasal <ʼ>
/tsʰeˈhajʎβə ˈməl ˈqʼartsʰə ˈmatsʰjə ˈʃə ɲet̪ʰˈhoʎtsʰe ˈɣawb/
/bət̪ʰjeʃˈjər ˈɣawb ˈmat̪ʰ ˈbaːt̪ʰə ˈcʰəːʃjə ɲet̪ʰəʃˈrəçʎtsʰe ˈməl/
/aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː | aˈqʰod̪ː/
ꓞꓰ-ꓧꓯꓼ-ꓡꓬꓩꓷ ꓟꓷꓡ ꓦꓼ-ꓶꓞꓷ ꓟꓼ-ꓞꓱ ꓢꓬꓷ ꓠꓬꓰ-ꓕꓧꓳꓼ-ꓡꓬꓞꓰ ꓭꓮꓳꓐ꓿
ꓐꓷ-ꓕꓬꓰ-ꓢꓬꓱꓶꓼ ꓭꓮꓳꓐ ꓟꓮꓕ ꓐꓸ-ꓕꓷ ꓗꓬꓷꓸ-ꓢꓬꓱ ꓠꓬꓰ-ꓕꓷ-ꓢꓬꓶꓼ-ꓫꓬꓡꓬꓞꓰ ꓟꓷꓡ꓿
ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿ ꓮ-ꓦꓳꓓꓓꓼ꓿
or if you prefer
/i u/ <i ʚ>
/e ə jə o/ <e æ ɛ œ>
/a/ <a>
rotate for stress
/m n ɲ/ <m n u>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b d dh dʒ ƹb>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <π t th c ch kh k ᵹ>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <ʇ ɥʇ ɔ ɥɔ ɥʞ ʞ ʞ ꝿ>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s ƨ 𝈑𝼁 gh ɥᵷ x>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <q p ʒ ƹ g ᵷ>
/r l ʎ/ <r ɼ ɺ>
/w j/ <o 𝼁>
Cexɐ𝼁ɺqæ mᴂl ꝿɐrcæ mɐcɛ ƨæ uetxᴔɺce gɐob.
Bæt𝼁eƨᴈr gɐob mɐt bɐɐtæ khᴂᴂƨɛ uetæƨrᴂ𝈑𝼁ɺce mᴂl.
Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd. Aᵹœdd.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Here is what I came up with for /reˈhɐʎɐ ˈkap/ Reháľa Kâp.
(Note that I have made updates since my original challege.)
Consonants:
/m n ɲ/ <m n ň>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b d dj dz dž>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p t tj ts tš c k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <t' tj' ts' tš' c' k' q'>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s š ś xj x h>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <v đ z ž gj g>
/r l ʎ/ <r l ľ>
/w j/ <w y>
The only real consonant allophony so far established is that /r/ is flapped between vowels, so I will not mark it above.
Unstressed vowels:
/i u/ [ɪ ʊ] <i u>
/e ɐ o/ [ɛ ə ɔ] <e a o>
/a/ [a] <à>
/ĩ ũ/ [ɪ̃ ʊ̃] <iñ uñ>
/ẽ ɐ̃ õ/ [ɛ̃ ə̃ ɔ̃] <eñ añ oñ>
/ã/ [ã] <àñ>
Stressed vowels:
/i u/ [i u] <í ú>
/e ɐ o/ [e ɐ o] <é á ó>
/a/ [a] <â>
/ĩ ũ/ [ĩ ũ] <íñ úñ>
/ẽ ɐ̃ õ/ [ẽ ɐ̃ õ] <éñ áñ óñ>
/ã/ [ã] <âñ>
/iː uː/ [iː uː] <íi úu>
/eː ɐː oː/ [eː ɐː oː] <ée áa óo>
/aː/ [aː] <âa>
/ˈmɐl ˈjɐɲ tsehajvˈʃɐʎvɐ ˈqʼartsɐ ˈmatsi ɲeˈɣawb ˈʁoɲ tseˈhol/
/ˈɣawb ˈjɐɲ tsevˈjeːʃi ˈmat ˈbat tsejeʃˈrɐhlr ˈmɐl/
/aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd/
Mál yáň tsehàyvšáľva q'ârtsa mâtsi ňegjâwb góň tsehól.
Gjâwb yáň tsevyéeši mât bât tseyešráhlr mál.
Àqotsád. Àqotsád. Àqotsád. Àqotsád. Àqotsád. Àqotsád. Àqotsád.
(Note that I have made updates since my original challege.)
Consonants:
/m n ɲ/ <m n ň>
/b d̪ d dz dʒ/ <b d dj dz dž>
/pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p t tj ts tš c k q>
/t̪ʼ tʼ tsʼ tʃʼ cʼ kʼ qʼ/ <t' tj' ts' tš' c' k' q'>
/s ʃ ç x χ h/ <s š ś xj x h>
/β ð z ʒ ɣ ʁ/ <v đ z ž gj g>
/r l ʎ/ <r l ľ>
/w j/ <w y>
The only real consonant allophony so far established is that /r/ is flapped between vowels, so I will not mark it above.
Unstressed vowels:
/i u/ [ɪ ʊ] <i u>
/e ɐ o/ [ɛ ə ɔ] <e a o>
/a/ [a] <à>
/ĩ ũ/ [ɪ̃ ʊ̃] <iñ uñ>
/ẽ ɐ̃ õ/ [ɛ̃ ə̃ ɔ̃] <eñ añ oñ>
/ã/ [ã] <àñ>
Stressed vowels:
/i u/ [i u] <í ú>
/e ɐ o/ [e ɐ o] <é á ó>
/a/ [a] <â>
/ĩ ũ/ [ĩ ũ] <íñ úñ>
/ẽ ɐ̃ õ/ [ẽ ɐ̃ õ] <éñ áñ óñ>
/ã/ [ã] <âñ>
/iː uː/ [iː uː] <íi úu>
/eː ɐː oː/ [eː ɐː oː] <ée áa óo>
/aː/ [aː] <âa>
/ˈmɐl ˈjɐɲ tsehajvˈʃɐʎvɐ ˈqʼartsɐ ˈmatsi ɲeˈɣawb ˈʁoɲ tseˈhol/
/ˈɣawb ˈjɐɲ tsevˈjeːʃi ˈmat ˈbat tsejeʃˈrɐhlr ˈmɐl/
/aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd | aqoˈtsɐd/
Mál yáň tsehàyvšáľva q'ârtsa mâtsi ňegjâwb góň tsehól.
Gjâwb yáň tsevyéeši mât bât tseyešráhlr mál.
Àqotsád. Àqotsád. Àqotsád. Àqotsád. Àqotsád. Àqotsád. Àqotsád.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
*b *bʲ
*p *pʲ *t *tʲ *ʈ *ʈʲ *k *kʲ *kʷ *kʷʲ
*pʰ *pʲʰ *tʰ *tʲʰ *ʈʰ *ʈʲʰ *kʰ *kʲʰ *kʷʰ *kʷʲʰ
*ts *tsʲ *tʂ *tʂʲ
*tsʰ *tsʲʰ *tʂʰ *tʂʲʰ *kxʰ *kxʲʰ
*s *sʲ *ʂ *ʂʲ
*β *βʲ *ð *ɣ *ɣʲ
*l *lʲ
*l̰ *l̰ʲ *ʀ̰
*w *ɰ *ɰʲ
*w̰ *ɰ̰ *ɰ̰ʲ
*m *mʲ *n *nʲ *ɳ *ɳʲ
*m̰ *m̰ʲ *n̰ *n̰ʲ *ɳ̰ *ɳ̰ʲ
*i *u
*e *o
*ɛ *ɔ
*a
CV(nʲ/l/lʲ) syllable structure with propensity for monosyllables
*ɔ regularly becomes *o before a velar, *a after a labial, *ɛ between a labial and coda liquid and *e when between a labial and a velar
*e and *o become *ɛ and *ɔ before a coda liquid and *u becomes *i before a coda *lʲ
*nʲ assimilates to the place of articulation of the following consonant and is j̃ otherwise
*a is in free variation with *ɐ and *ə
*bʲeku “star” *ɣʲu “sun” *ðɛnʲ “sea” *sʲal “sky” *ʀ̰ɔ “black” *m̰ʲe “soul/spirit/ghost” *ka “bitter” *kʲʰa “one” *mɛnʲ “mother” *tsʰɔ “dusk” *tsil “crab” *tʰalʲ “tail” *ʂʲo “moon” *pʲʰekinʲ “sugar” *ba “tall/lonely” *ɳʲosu “story/tale/ash” *ɰ̰a “good” *ɰʲukxʲʰu *ɣilʲ “spark” *βɔno “to clean” *tʂʲaɰ̰ʲa “earth” *βʲu “two” *ɳ̰ʲasi “soup/sugar” *l̰ʲɛ “bandit” *pʲɔ “eye” *w̰ɛ “bone/head/skull” *l̰ɛl “light” *nɛ “to help/aid” *ʂanʲ “milk” *kxʰo “breastmilk/dog” *tsʲʰɔβʲɛ “cat/weasel” *n̰ɛ “fox/leaf” *ɳ̰ʲunʲ “badger/lucky charm” *ʀ̰ɛwe “to ask” *ʈʲʰɛ “water” *tsʰɔnʲ “amulet” *ɰ̰ʲɛ “tear/rain/to rain” *kemi “woman” *tʰɛtʲe “be south” *ɳi “stick/brother” *kʷʰɔ “to barter/trade” *kʷʲɛnʲ “be tomorrow” *sɛ “be north”
*p *pʲ *t *tʲ *ʈ *ʈʲ *k *kʲ *kʷ *kʷʲ
*pʰ *pʲʰ *tʰ *tʲʰ *ʈʰ *ʈʲʰ *kʰ *kʲʰ *kʷʰ *kʷʲʰ
*ts *tsʲ *tʂ *tʂʲ
*tsʰ *tsʲʰ *tʂʰ *tʂʲʰ *kxʰ *kxʲʰ
*s *sʲ *ʂ *ʂʲ
*β *βʲ *ð *ɣ *ɣʲ
*l *lʲ
*l̰ *l̰ʲ *ʀ̰
*w *ɰ *ɰʲ
*w̰ *ɰ̰ *ɰ̰ʲ
*m *mʲ *n *nʲ *ɳ *ɳʲ
*m̰ *m̰ʲ *n̰ *n̰ʲ *ɳ̰ *ɳ̰ʲ
*i *u
*e *o
*ɛ *ɔ
*a
CV(nʲ/l/lʲ) syllable structure with propensity for monosyllables
*ɔ regularly becomes *o before a velar, *a after a labial, *ɛ between a labial and coda liquid and *e when between a labial and a velar
*e and *o become *ɛ and *ɔ before a coda liquid and *u becomes *i before a coda *lʲ
*nʲ assimilates to the place of articulation of the following consonant and is j̃ otherwise
*a is in free variation with *ɐ and *ə
*bʲeku “star” *ɣʲu “sun” *ðɛnʲ “sea” *sʲal “sky” *ʀ̰ɔ “black” *m̰ʲe “soul/spirit/ghost” *ka “bitter” *kʲʰa “one” *mɛnʲ “mother” *tsʰɔ “dusk” *tsil “crab” *tʰalʲ “tail” *ʂʲo “moon” *pʲʰekinʲ “sugar” *ba “tall/lonely” *ɳʲosu “story/tale/ash” *ɰ̰a “good” *ɰʲukxʲʰu *ɣilʲ “spark” *βɔno “to clean” *tʂʲaɰ̰ʲa “earth” *βʲu “two” *ɳ̰ʲasi “soup/sugar” *l̰ʲɛ “bandit” *pʲɔ “eye” *w̰ɛ “bone/head/skull” *l̰ɛl “light” *nɛ “to help/aid” *ʂanʲ “milk” *kxʰo “breastmilk/dog” *tsʲʰɔβʲɛ “cat/weasel” *n̰ɛ “fox/leaf” *ɳ̰ʲunʲ “badger/lucky charm” *ʀ̰ɛwe “to ask” *ʈʲʰɛ “water” *tsʰɔnʲ “amulet” *ɰ̰ʲɛ “tear/rain/to rain” *kemi “woman” *tʰɛtʲe “be south” *ɳi “stick/brother” *kʷʰɔ “to barter/trade” *kʷʲɛnʲ “be tomorrow” *sɛ “be north”
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
*b *bʲ - B B́
*p *pʲ *t *tʲ *ʈ *ʈʲ *k *kʲ *kʷ *kʷʲ - p ṕ t t́ ṭ ṭ́ k ḱ q q́
*pʰ *pʲʰ *tʰ *tʲʰ *ʈʰ *ʈʲʰ *kʰ *kʲʰ *kʷʰ *kʷʲʰ - P Ṕ T T́ Ṭ Ṭ́ K Ḱ Q Q́
*ts *tsʲ *tʂ *tʂʲ - c ć c̣ ć̣
*tsʰ *tsʲʰ *tʂʰ *tʂʲʰ *kxʰ *kxʲʰ - C Ć C̣ Ć̣ X X́
*s *sʲ *ʂ *ʂʲ - s ś ṣ ṣ́
*β *βʲ *ð *ɣ *ɣʲ - b b́ d g ǵ
*l *lʲ - l ĺ
*l̰ *l̰ʲ *ʀ̰ - L Ĺ G
*w *ɰ *ɰʲ - v w ẃ
*w̰ *ɰ̰ *ɰ̰ʲ - V W Ẃ
*m *mʲ *n *nʲ *ɳ *ɳʲ - m ḿ n ń ṇ ṇ́
*m̰ *m̰ʲ *n̰ *n̰ʲ *ɳ̰ *ɳ̰ʲ - M Ḿ N Ń Ṇ Ṇ́
*i *u - i u
*e *o - E O
*ɛ *ɔ - e o
*a - a
B́Eku, ǵu, deń, śal, Go, ḾE, ka, Ḱa, meń, Co, cil, Taĺ, ṣ́O, ṔEkiń, Ba, ṇ́Osu, Wa, ẂuX́u, giĺ, bonO, ć̣aẂa, b́u, Ṇ́asi, ĺe, ṕo, Ve, Lel, ne, ṣań, XO, Ćob́e, ne, Ṇ́uń, GevE, Ṭ́e, Coń, Ẃe, kEmi, Tet́E, ṇi, Qo, Q́eń, se
yes, I did it again.
*p *pʲ *t *tʲ *ʈ *ʈʲ *k *kʲ *kʷ *kʷʲ - p ṕ t t́ ṭ ṭ́ k ḱ q q́
*pʰ *pʲʰ *tʰ *tʲʰ *ʈʰ *ʈʲʰ *kʰ *kʲʰ *kʷʰ *kʷʲʰ - P Ṕ T T́ Ṭ Ṭ́ K Ḱ Q Q́
*ts *tsʲ *tʂ *tʂʲ - c ć c̣ ć̣
*tsʰ *tsʲʰ *tʂʰ *tʂʲʰ *kxʰ *kxʲʰ - C Ć C̣ Ć̣ X X́
*s *sʲ *ʂ *ʂʲ - s ś ṣ ṣ́
*β *βʲ *ð *ɣ *ɣʲ - b b́ d g ǵ
*l *lʲ - l ĺ
*l̰ *l̰ʲ *ʀ̰ - L Ĺ G
*w *ɰ *ɰʲ - v w ẃ
*w̰ *ɰ̰ *ɰ̰ʲ - V W Ẃ
*m *mʲ *n *nʲ *ɳ *ɳʲ - m ḿ n ń ṇ ṇ́
*m̰ *m̰ʲ *n̰ *n̰ʲ *ɳ̰ *ɳ̰ʲ - M Ḿ N Ń Ṇ Ṇ́
*i *u - i u
*e *o - E O
*ɛ *ɔ - e o
*a - a
B́Eku, ǵu, deń, śal, Go, ḾE, ka, Ḱa, meń, Co, cil, Taĺ, ṣ́O, ṔEkiń, Ba, ṇ́Osu, Wa, ẂuX́u, giĺ, bonO, ć̣aẂa, b́u, Ṇ́asi, ĺe, ṕo, Ve, Lel, ne, ṣań, XO, Ćob́e, ne, Ṇ́uń, GevE, Ṭ́e, Coń, Ẃe, kEmi, Tet́E, ṇi, Qo, Q́eń, se
yes, I did it again.
also known as, 'notenderdude' or any variation thereof.
terminally in search of who asked.
terminally in search of who asked.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
*pʲ *pʷ *t *ʈ *k
*s *ʂ *x *xʷ
*βʲ *w *ɹ *l *ɭ *j
*mʲ *mʷ *n *ɳ
CVN syllable structure where any consonant except the rhotic could occur initially and final consonants were limited to the rhotic and a homorganic nasal which defaults to *n phrase finally.
The rhotic isn’t a real phoneme it appears exclusively in words of the form C1V1C1V1()ɹ which is the form of the diminutive. Rarely does the word not have a corresponding non diminutive form and all these roots have a diminutive meaning.
*i *u
*e *o
*ɛ *ɔ
*a
pʲɛmʲe βʲuɭɔ mʷɔn kaʈo xʷixʷiɹ
wannoxʷa ʂixɛ kakaluɹ mʷe
nala mʲa ʂɛmʲe
totoxiɹ jan pʲɔxɔ ʈuɳen
*s *ʂ *x *xʷ
*βʲ *w *ɹ *l *ɭ *j
*mʲ *mʷ *n *ɳ
CVN syllable structure where any consonant except the rhotic could occur initially and final consonants were limited to the rhotic and a homorganic nasal which defaults to *n phrase finally.
The rhotic isn’t a real phoneme it appears exclusively in words of the form C1V1C1V1()ɹ which is the form of the diminutive. Rarely does the word not have a corresponding non diminutive form and all these roots have a diminutive meaning.
*i *u
*e *o
*ɛ *ɔ
*a
pʲɛmʲe βʲuɭɔ mʷɔn kaʈo xʷixʷiɹ
wannoxʷa ʂixɛ kakaluɹ mʷe
nala mʲa ʂɛmʲe
totoxiɹ jan pʲɔxɔ ʈuɳen
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þeprussianfrog
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
hm a weird Cyrillic attempt
п б т д к
с ш х ф
в ў р л ꙥ й
м ꙧ н њ
и у
е о
ѣ ѡ
а
пѣме вуꙥѡ ꙧѡн кадо фифир
ўаннофа шихѣ какалур ꙧе
нала мя шѣме
тотохир йан пѡхѡ дуњен
п б т д к
с ш х ф
в ў р л ꙥ й
м ꙧ н њ
и у
е о
ѣ ѡ
а
пѣме вуꙥѡ ꙧѡн кадо фифир
ўаннофа шихѣ какалур ꙧе
нала мя шѣме
тотохир йан пѡхѡ дуњен
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Nortaneous
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- Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:29 am
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/pʲ pʷ t ʈ k/ <пь п ть т к>
/s ʂ x xʷ/ <с ш х хв>
/βʲ w ɹ l ɭ j/ <в вь р ль л й>
/mʲ mʷ n ɳ/ <мь м нь н>
/a ɛ ɔ e o i u/ <я/а ӛ/ә ӫ/ө е/э ё/о и/ы ю/у>
пӛме вюлө мөн като хвыхвыр
ваннохва шыхә какалур мэ
наля мя шәме
тотохир ян пӫхо тунэн
/s ʂ x xʷ/ <с ш х хв>
/βʲ w ɹ l ɭ j/ <в вь р ль л й>
/mʲ mʷ n ɳ/ <мь м нь н>
/a ɛ ɔ e o i u/ <я/а ӛ/ә ӫ/ө е/э ё/о и/ы ю/у>
пӛме вюлө мөн като хвыхвыр
ваннохва шыхә какалур мэ
наля мя шәме
тотохир ян пӫхо тунэн
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Irish Style
*pʲ *pʷ *t *ʈ *k ⟨p p t t c⟩
*s *ʂ *x *xʷ ⟨s s ch f⟩
*βʲ *w *ɹ *l *ɭ *j ⟨mh mh th l l ∅²⟩
*mʲ *mʷ *n *ɳ ⟨m m n n⟩
¹ Before ⟨a⟩
² An extra ⟨i⟩ is inserted before a slender vowel
*pʲ *t *s *βʲ *l *j *mʲ *n are slender, the rest are broad, except word final coda *ɹ *n don't care what vowels they touch
*i *u ⟨(i)ao(i)¹ (i)u(i)⟩
*e *o ⟨áe(i)/é(o) (e)ó(i)⟩
*ɛ *ɔ ⟨ae(i)/e(o) (e)o(i)⟩
*a ⟨(e)a(i)⟩
¹ ⟨iaoi⟩ is rather ⟨i⟩
Broad consonants must touch only ⟨a o ó u ae⟩ and slender ones only ⟨e é i⟩. Insert vowels and switch between varients to make this work.
pʲɛmʲe βʲuɭɔ mʷɔn kaʈo xʷixʷiɹ
wannoxʷa ʂixɛ kakaluɹ mʷe
nala mʲa ʂɛmʲe
totoxiɹ jan pʲɔxɔ ʈuɳen
⟨pemé biulo mon cató faofath⟩
⟨mhainneófa saochae cacailiuth mae⟩
⟨neailea mea saeimé⟩
⟨totochaoth eain peocho tunaen⟩
*pʲ *pʷ *t *ʈ *k ⟨p p t t c⟩
*s *ʂ *x *xʷ ⟨s s ch f⟩
*βʲ *w *ɹ *l *ɭ *j ⟨mh mh th l l ∅²⟩
*mʲ *mʷ *n *ɳ ⟨m m n n⟩
¹ Before ⟨a⟩
² An extra ⟨i⟩ is inserted before a slender vowel
*pʲ *t *s *βʲ *l *j *mʲ *n are slender, the rest are broad, except word final coda *ɹ *n don't care what vowels they touch
*i *u ⟨(i)ao(i)¹ (i)u(i)⟩
*e *o ⟨áe(i)/é(o) (e)ó(i)⟩
*ɛ *ɔ ⟨ae(i)/e(o) (e)o(i)⟩
*a ⟨(e)a(i)⟩
¹ ⟨iaoi⟩ is rather ⟨i⟩
Broad consonants must touch only ⟨a o ó u ae⟩ and slender ones only ⟨e é i⟩. Insert vowels and switch between varients to make this work.
pʲɛmʲe βʲuɭɔ mʷɔn kaʈo xʷixʷiɹ
wannoxʷa ʂixɛ kakaluɹ mʷe
nala mʲa ʂɛmʲe
totoxiɹ jan pʲɔxɔ ʈuɳen
⟨pemé biulo mon cató faofath⟩
⟨mhainneófa saochae cacailiuth mae⟩
⟨neailea mea saeimé⟩
⟨totochaoth eain peocho tunaen⟩
LZ – Lēri Ziwi
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
PS – Proto Sāzlakuic (ancestor of LZ)
PRk – Proto Rākēwuic
XI – Xú Iạlan
VN – verbal noun
SUP – supine
DIRECT – verbal directional
My language stuff
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/ˌnɐˈɾɛndɚduːd/
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
guess I'll stick with the theme and do something other than a standard english attempt.
*pʲ *pʷ *t *ʈ *k - π πϋ τ τ’ κ
*s *ʂ *x *xʷ - σ σ’ χ χϋ
*βʲ *w *ɹ *l *ɭ *j - β βϋ ρ λ λ’ ϊ
*mʲ *mʷ *n *ɳ - μ μϋ ν ν’
*i *u - ι υ
*e *o - ε ο
*ɛ *ɔ - η ω
*a - α
πημε βυλ’ω μϋων κατ’ο χϋιχϋιρ
βϋαννoχϋα σ’ιχη κακαλυρ μϋε
ναλα μα σ’ημε
τοτοχιρ ϊαν πωχω τ’υνεν’
*pʲ *pʷ *t *ʈ *k - π πϋ τ τ’ κ
*s *ʂ *x *xʷ - σ σ’ χ χϋ
*βʲ *w *ɹ *l *ɭ *j - β βϋ ρ λ λ’ ϊ
*mʲ *mʷ *n *ɳ - μ μϋ ν ν’
*i *u - ι υ
*e *o - ε ο
*ɛ *ɔ - η ω
*a - α
πημε βυλ’ω μϋων κατ’ο χϋιχϋιρ
βϋαννoχϋα σ’ιχη κακαλυρ μϋε
ναλα μα σ’ημε
τοτοχιρ ϊαν πωχω τ’υνεν’
also known as, 'notenderdude' or any variation thereof.
terminally in search of who asked.
terminally in search of who asked.
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Nortaneous
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/p t k s x β l j m n/ <p t k ſ h v r y m ñ>
/a ɛ ɔ e o i u/ <a ɛ ɔ e o i u>
-n = tilde
light consonants: /pʲ t s x βʲ l mʲ n/
dark consonants: /pʷ ʈ ʂ xʷ w ɭ mʷ ɳ/
neutral consonants: /k ɹ j/
⌜pɛme⌝·⌟ʌnɹc·ꟺc̰·ʞɐʇo·ɥᴉɥᴉl⌞
⌟ʌɐṵṵoɥɐ·ȷᴉ⌞⌜hɛ·kakarul⌝·⌟ꟺə⌞
⌜nala·ma⌝·⌟ȷɜ⌞⌜me⌝
⌜totohil·yañ·pɔhɔ⌝·⌟ʇnṵə̰⌞
/a ɛ ɔ e o i u/ <a ɛ ɔ e o i u>
-n = tilde
light consonants: /pʲ t s x βʲ l mʲ n/
dark consonants: /pʷ ʈ ʂ xʷ w ɭ mʷ ɳ/
neutral consonants: /k ɹ j/
⌜pɛme⌝·⌟ʌnɹc·ꟺc̰·ʞɐʇo·ɥᴉɥᴉl⌞
⌟ʌɐṵṵoɥɐ·ȷᴉ⌞⌜hɛ·kakarul⌝·⌟ꟺə⌞
⌜nala·ma⌝·⌟ȷɜ⌞⌜me⌝
⌜totohil·yañ·pɔhɔ⌝·⌟ʇnṵə̰⌞
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
pʲ *pʷ *t *ʈ *k <p b t d k>
*s *ʂ *x *xʷ <s c h q>
*βʲ *w *ɹ *l *ɭ *j <v w r l r y>
*mʲ *mʷ *n *ɳ <j m n z>
*i *u <i u>
*e *o <ē ō>
*ɛ *ɔ <e o>
*a <a>
pʲɛmʲe βʲuɭɔ mʷɔn kaʈo xʷixʷiɹ
wannoxʷa ʂixɛ kakaluɹ mʷe
nala mʲa ʂɛmʲe
totoxiɹ jan pʲɔxɔ ʈuɳen
Pejē vuro mon kadō qiqir.
Wannōqa cihe kakalur me.
Nala ja cejē.
Tōtōhir yan poho duzen.
alternatively:
dark: (cf. above) /i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <ï u ë o ã ø å>
light: /i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <i ü e ö æ œ a>
/p t k s x w l j m n/ <p t k s h w l y m n>
Pæme vülø møn kato hïhïr.
Wånnöhå sïhæ kakalür më.
Nala ma sãme.
Tötöhir yan pœhœ tunën.
or:
<ii u ee o ae au aa> <i uu e oo ai ao a>
Paime vuulau maun kato hiihiir.
Waannoohaa siihai kakaluur mee.
Nala ma saeme.
Tootoohir yan paohao tuneen.
*s *ʂ *x *xʷ <s c h q>
*βʲ *w *ɹ *l *ɭ *j <v w r l r y>
*mʲ *mʷ *n *ɳ <j m n z>
*i *u <i u>
*e *o <ē ō>
*ɛ *ɔ <e o>
*a <a>
pʲɛmʲe βʲuɭɔ mʷɔn kaʈo xʷixʷiɹ
wannoxʷa ʂixɛ kakaluɹ mʷe
nala mʲa ʂɛmʲe
totoxiɹ jan pʲɔxɔ ʈuɳen
Pejē vuro mon kadō qiqir.
Wannōqa cihe kakalur me.
Nala ja cejē.
Tōtōhir yan poho duzen.
alternatively:
dark: (cf. above) /i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <ï u ë o ã ø å>
light: /i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <i ü e ö æ œ a>
/p t k s x w l j m n/ <p t k s h w l y m n>
Pæme vülø møn kato hïhïr.
Wånnöhå sïhæ kakalür më.
Nala ma sãme.
Tötöhir yan pœhœ tunën.
or:
<ii u ee o ae au aa> <i uu e oo ai ao a>
Paime vuulau maun kato hiihiir.
Waannoohaa siihai kakaluur mee.
Nala ma saeme.
Tootoohir yan paohao tuneen.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.