Conlang fluency thread

[quinterbeck]

Gum Reima -a eun ene, wehwain ora eunleo
INST Leima 1s COM word INC-REL.STA NZP-1s COM-none
Leima uses -a as an affix, which becomes 'ora' by itself

[bradrn]

“Na” yaazhgzhoomeyen. Yaazhgzhoomnem “zhaag” yaaygzhoomey reeʔ.
/“na” jaːʒɡʒoːmejen || jaːʒɡʒoːmnem “ʒaːɡ” jaːjɡʒoːmej reːʔ/

“Na”

“na”

yaa-zh-gzhoom-ey-en.

3s.ERG-1s.ABS-say-PRES.PFV-NEG

yaa-zh-gzhoom-∅-nem

3s.ERG-1s.ABS-say-PRES.IMPF=C

“zhaag”

“zhaag”

yaa-y-gzhoom-ey

3s.ERG-3s.ABS-say-PRES.PFV

reeʔ.

but

I don’t use “na”. My language says “zhaag” instead.

(I’ve really got to think of a better name for this than ‘my language’…)



Gu xatküm “xat” cäxqeqe-üsta.
/gu xɑtkɯm “xɑt” t͡sæxʔeʔeʔɯstɑ/

gu

this

xat-küm

1s-POSS.INALN

“xat”

“xat”

cäx-qe-qe-üs=ta

have-3s.SUBJ-3s.OBJ-PFV=CONJ

And this language uses “xat”.

[Pedant]

Pahi "na" Salvyanōsting mu miḍulōngganahat.
*Pah-i "na" Salvyanōsti-k mu miḍul-ōngga-nahat*
Use-3sABS "I" Classical.Salvian-INST.SING NEG INCHO-know-PERF.ERG.PART-1sPOSS-ABL.SING
Classical Salvian uses "na" for "I", which I didn't realize…

[Glass Half Baked]

(I’ve really got to think of a better name for this than ‘my language’…)

"aa uroo vohi ʒ" sano ya?
How about "Oops All ʒ?"

[bradrn]

(I’ve really got to think of a better name for this than ‘my language’…)

"aa uroo vohi ʒ" sano ya?
How about "Oops All ʒ?"

Syoobano “yaazhgzhoom”-ik yaagizhgzhoomsoowin yaaniigbelsoow — goshem dweʔik wooremwaapihik yaagidin ang! “aa” yaazhgzhoomeyaam riʔaa, reeʔ.
/sjoːbano “jaːʒɡʒoːmik” jaːɡiʒɡʒoːmsoːwin jaːniːɡbelsoːw | ɡoʃem dweʔik woːremwaːpihik yaːɡidin aŋ || “aː” jaːʒɡʒoːmejaːm riʔaː, reːʔ/

That’s only because I used “yaazhgzhoom” (meaning: ‘I say it’) three times — I don’t have many words yet! Actually, I probably use “aa” too much.

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[syoobano

three

“yaazhgzhoom”-in-∅

“yaazhgzhoom”-PLU-ABS

yaagi-zh-gzhoom-soow]=in-∅

3p.ABS-1s.ERG-say-PST.PFV=NMLZ-ABS

yaa-niigbe-el-soow —

3s.ABS-cause-ANTIP-PST.PFV

gosh-em

this-GEN

dweʔik

many

wooremwaapihik

word-PLU

yaagi-di-en

3p-exist-NEG

ang!

now

“aa”-∅

“aa”-ABS

yaa-zh-gzhoom-ey-aam

3s.ABS-1s.ERG-PRES.PFV-SPEC

riʔaa,

INT

reeʔ.

but

(I think that what happened with both /ʒ/ and /aː/ was that I was inspired by Ojibwe, and tried to make the phonology sound similar, but overdid it a bit… Anyway, I’m pretty happy with the result, since I think it’s the first of my conlangs to have a distinctive ‘character’ of its own.)

(Also, I’ve decided to experiment with having my usual detailed gloss, but keeping it hidden by default. What does everyone think about this idea?)

[jal]

Mi nahf no "na" fi "mi" ina fo mi mekop langwic-dem, oba Alũbetah has "n" o "ne" (olbit "hna" fi "yu" an "na" fi "im"), a mata mi tokl fogot.
I don't have "na" for "I" in my conlangs, but Alũbetah has "n" or "ne" (though "hna" for "you" and "na" for "he/she/it"), which I had completely forgotten.


JAL

[masako]

na ke tlokua ya pyokinke kipo
I hope everyone stays healthy!

[jal]

Ye, fo lok de Sajiwa it in ste no Korona, oba di ikonami a swayk ahcip, kos olda krus-dem a bile.
Yeah, luckily there's still no Corona on Sajiwa, but the economy is hit hard, as all the cruises have been cancelled.

Mi tingk mi a go kip ahti, mi swel neba kac olde flu. Olso, an mi osban an mi son me re kac im, an mi ste in kac im, a fah mi me se so, so mi in fiya im.
I think I'll stay healthy, I've also never caught the normal flu. Also, both my wife and my son may have had(?)* caught it, and I still didn't catch it, as far as I know, so I'm not afraid of it.

*This doesn't sound right, but I do mean a past perfect, since they're both healthy again.


JAL

[jal]

Orah! Mi ful taym finis tahn cata 2 a Obit Ya! Im me fayn don de ya. (Cata 1 de ya.) Rayon twoh cata 3!
Yay! I finally finished translating chapter 2 of The Hobbit. It can be found here. (Chapter 1 here.) Onwards to chapter 3!


JAL

[bradrn]

Yaareebemey riʔaa! Yaazhsiimopsoow meshraam nang yaawshom, zhaayyageh riʔaa ano’aniker nang yaawshominek yem reeʔ! Syoobano’er nang yaawshomwimey yem be? (Woogem kaang-yaazhgzhoom-gmoowenemii-yaazheyyakwaaynem yaadi be, yem?)
/jaːreːbemej riʔaː || jaːʒsiːmopsoːw meʃraːm naŋ jaːwshom | ʒaːjjaɡeh riʔaː ano.aniker naŋ jaːwʃominek jem reːʔ || sjoːbano.er naŋ jaːwʃomwimej jem be || (woːɡem kaːŋ jaːʒɡʒoːm ɡmoːwenemiː jaːʒejjakwaːjnem jaːdi be | jem)/

Excellent work! I had thought that you were only making Chapter 1, but I’m really happy you also did Chapter 2! Are you going to do Chapter 3 as well? (Also, do you have a pronunciation guide? (lit. ‘what makes me know how to say that’)

Gloss:

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yaa-reebem-ey

3s.ABS-good-PRS.PFV

riʔaa!

INT

yaa-zh-siimop-soow

3s.ABS-1s.ERG-think-PST.PFV

mesh=[raam

COMP=one.ORDINAL

nang-∅

part-ABS

yaa-w-shom],

3s.ABS-2s.ERG-make

zhaa-y-ya-geh-∅

1s.ABS-3s.ERG-CAUS-happy-PRS.IMPF

riʔaa

INT

[ano’anik-er

two-ORDINAL

nang-∅

part-ABS

yaa-w-shom-in-ek

3s.ABS-2s.ERG-make-NMLZ-ERG

yem]

also

reeʔ!

but

syoobano-er

three-ORDINAL

nang-∅

part-ABS

yaa-w-shom-wimey

3s.ABS-1s.ERG-make-FUT.IMPF

yem

also

be?

Q

(Woog-em

2s-GEN

[[kaang-∅

that-ABS

yaa-zh-gzhoom

3s.ABS-1s.ERG-say

gmoowe]=nem-ii

like.that=COMP-DAT

yaa-zhe-y-ya-kwaa-y]=nem-∅

3s.ABS-1s.DAT-3s.ERG-CAUS-know-PRS.PFV=COMP-ABS

yaa-di

3s.ABS-exist

be,

Q

yem?)

also

[jal]

Excellent work! I had thought that you were only making Chapter 1, but I’m really happy you also did Chapter 2! Are you going to do Chapter 3 as well? (Also, do you have a pronunciation guide?)

Bles yu! Mi a go tahn olda buk! An mi redi sta tahn cata 3 (swi) ("Dem in sing o tel tel dis ya de, olbit weda beta; an swel no nes de, an swel no nes nes de.").
Thank you! I'm going to transalte the whole book! And I already started chapter 3 (three) ("They did not sing or tell stories that day, even though the weather improved; nor the next day, nor the day after.").

As for the pronunciation, it's fairly straightforward, with a few caveats:

a - [ɐ]
b - [ b ]
c - [ c͡ç]
d - [d] (alveolar or dental)
e - [e] or [ɪ]
f - [f]
g - [g]
i -[ i ]
j - [ ɟ͡ʝ]
k - [k]
l - [l] (alveolar or dental)
m - [m]
n - [n]
o - [o], [ɔ] before nasal
p - [p]
r - [r] (trilled)
s - [s]
t - [t] (alveolar or dental)
u - [ u ]
w - [w]
y - [j]

Note there's no aspiration on the plosives!

Then there's a number of digraphs:

ah - [ɐː]
eh - [eː]
ih - [iː] (very rare)
oh - [oː]
uh - [uː] (very rare)

an - [ɐ̃] or [ɐ̃ɰ]
on - [ɔ̃] or [ɔ̃ɰʷ]
before [ŋ] partial or full nasalisation may also occur (e.g. "long" [lɔ̃ŋ])

wa - [ɐː] after labialized consonant, though [ɐ] at end of word (e.g. "agua" [ɐgʷɐ])
wi - [yː]
we - [øː]
wo - [w̝] or [b̞ʷ] at start of syllable, [oː] after labialized consonant
wu - [uː] after labialized consonant (doesn't appear otherwise)

ng - [ŋ]
ny - [ɲ]
yn - [ɲ] (with lengthening of preceeding vowel, e.g. "layn" [lɐːɲ])
yl - [ʎ] (with lengthening of preceeding vowel, e.g. "balyu" [bɐːʎu])
ly - [ʎ] (with lengthening of preceeding vowel, e.g. "cayl" [ c͡çɐːʎ])

bw - [bʷ]
dw - [dʷ]
fw - [ɸʷ]
gw - [gʷ]
kw - [kʷ]
pw - [pʷ]
sw - [sʷ]
tw - [tʷ]
succeeding vowel is lengthened

[l], [m] and [n] can be syllabic (e.g. "bokl" [bo.kl̩], "apn" [a.pn̩])

I think that's it!

EDIT: That was not it entirely: intervocalic /s/ becomes voiced ([s̬] or [z]), unstressed final /o/ gets lenited to [o̝] or [ u ] (so e.g. "manggo" [mɐŋgu]).


JAL

[masako]

yomali ke tlanam maha kyotahila
Every day, people get a little bit crazier.

[jal]

Ray fo so.
Quite true.


JAL

[Esneirra973]

yomali ke tlanam maha kyotahila
Every day, people get a little bit crazier.

J'andey a Walgreens en Dimenche, et l'esle de paper hygienic erth completment vuide.
/d͡ʒan.dei a wal.grinz en di.ment͡ʃ et lel də pa.pər hi.d͡ʒe.nik ərθ kom.plet.mənt vid/
[d͡ʒan.dei a wal.gɹinz en di.ment͡ʃ et lel də pa.pɚ hi.d͡ʒe.nik ɚθ kom.plet.mn̩t vid]
1S-go.1S.PST.IND to Walgreens on Sunday and DEF.FS-aisle of toilet paper be.3S.IMPF.IND completely empty-FS
I went to Walgreens on Sunday, and the toilet paper aisle was completely empty.

[Ares Land]

J'andey a Walgreens en Dimenche, et l'esle de paper hygienic erth completment vuide.
/d͡ʒan.dei a wal.grinz en di.ment͡ʃ et lel də pa.pər hi.d͡ʒe.nik ərθ kom.plet.mənt vid/
[d͡ʒan.dei a wal.gɹinz en di.ment͡ʃ et lel də pa.pɚ hi.d͡ʒe.nik ɚθ kom.plet.mn̩t vid]
1S-go.1S.PST.IND to Walgreens on Sunday and DEF.FS-aisle of toilet paper be.3S.IMPF.IND completely empty-FS
I went to Walgreens on Sunday, and the toilet paper aisle was completely empty.

Essa lengua e certo apparendada allo romano de Gajja, mai como?
That language is of course related to French, but how?

Validi a ttudu!
Hello everyone, hope you're well!

[Esneirra973]

J'andey a Walgreens en Dimenche, et l'esle de paper hygienic erth completment vuide.
/d͡ʒan.dei a wal.grinz en di.ment͡ʃ et lel də pa.pər hi.d͡ʒe.nik ərθ kom.plet.mənt vid/
[d͡ʒan.dei a wal.gɹinz en di.ment͡ʃ et lel də pa.pɚ hi.d͡ʒe.nik ɚθ kom.plet.mn̩t vid]
1S-go.1S.PST.IND to Walgreens on Sunday and DEF.FS-aisle of toilet paper be.3S.IMPF.IND completely empty-FS
I went to Walgreens on Sunday, and the toilet paper aisle was completely empty.

Essa lengua e certo apparendada allo romano de Gajja, mai como?
That language is of course related to French, but how?

Bon, t'es press. Ciste est une lengadge Roman en Bretain d'une line de temp dound les Anglo-Seisons assimilarent a la population Romane de Bretain.
/bon tes pres t͡ʃist est in leŋ.gəd͡ʒ ro.mən en brə.tain din lin də temp dund ləs aŋ.glo.sei.səns ə.si.mi.la.rənt a lə po.pi.la.t͡ʃən ro.mən də brə.tain/
[bon tes pɹes t͡ʃist est in leŋ.gəd͡ʒ ɹo.mən en bɹə.tain din lin də temp dund ləs aŋ.glo.sei.səns ə.si.mi.la.ɹənt a lə po.pi.la.t͡ʃən ɹo.mən də bɹə.tain]
well 2S-be.2S.PRES.IND close PROX.FS be.3S.PRES.IND INDEF.FS language Roman in Britain of-INDEF.FS line of time where DEF.MP Anglo-Saxon-PLU assimilate-3P.PST.IND to DEF.FS population Roman of Britain
Well, you're close. This is a Romance language in Britain from an alternate timeline where the Anglo-Saxons assimilated into the Roman population of Britain.

[Ares Land]

Gavvu! Posso què ce leggo senza traduzioni.
Nice! I can read it without translation.

[masako]

Validi a ttudu!
Hello everyone, hope you're well!

ke tlika nayo tama
My family is good.

na'am tsaye ueha'o te ma'atsu uayopapua
We have been able to isolate since the 13th of March.

[Yalensky]

Lore na rarol toshnu gushshezhe. Ke na se ganzhe marksezhe, be ora tave lela ne ar tas shancham shinet.
I still go for runs along the lake. And I take walks in the cemetery, since everyone there is six feet away from me.

[masako]

And I take walks in the cemetery, since everyone there is six feet away from me.

uatla tasi ma muhe
That is funny and sad.