The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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BROTHERS!
Remember the "glebst of gleb" thread in which we posted gleb's ridiculous phonologies?
Well, I do, and what way to reinstate the ZBB 2.0 is better than a gleb 2.0 thread?
Let's start with two fascinating seeds that I stumbled upon:
#1946405671, Gagɛŋsu [gaɰɛŋzu]

Phonemes:
/p p' b t t' d k k' g/
/s z/
/ʍ w/
/m n ŋ/

/i e ɛ a ɔ o u/

Transcription:
<p f b t j d k q g>
<s z>
<h w>
<m n ŋ>

<i e ɛ a ɔ o u>

Syllable structure:
(G)(C)V(C)
When G is /k k' ŋ/

Allophony rules:
-Cluster voicing backward assimilation for obstruents- the second obstruent determines the voicing. all other consonants do not change voicing
-Final devoicing for obstruents
-Ejectives become regular stops before an obstruent
-Front vowels become central before [ʍ w]
-/s/ becomes voiced between voiced phonemes
-Alveolar stops and nasals assimilate in POA to a following obstruent/nasal
-Alveolar stops elide finally
-/g/ lenits to [ɰ]between vowels and semivowels

Example sentence (doesn't mean anything, as do all other examples):
Gofpow ŋejqqitwaz soe zew dambi kgizsaktaŋsui muŋwep ji ked ŋfɛŋ kasu.
[gopːow ŋek'ːːitwas soe zɘw dambi gːisːaktaŋzui muŋwep t'i ke ŋp'ɛŋ kazu]

And #1647438689, Dzéltyü [d͡zelcy]

Phonemes:
/p b t d t͡s d͡z c k/
/f s ç x h/
/w l j/
/m n/

/i y e ø ɛ œ ɑ ɔ o u/

Transcription:
<p b t d c dz ty k>
<f s hy x h>
<w l j>
<m n>

<i ü é ő e ö a o ó u>

Syllable structure:
(C)V(C)
/b d dz/ are illegal codas

Allophony rules
-/p b m/ become labiodental before /f/
-Voiceless stops + /h/ become aspirated
-Back vowels centralize before /j/
-Front vowels are backed after a velar
-Cluster voicing backward assimilation for obstruents, this time nasals can change the initial obstruent's voicing
-Final devoicing for obstruents
-Before a voiced stop or a nasal, fricatives and affricates become their corresponding stops: but /f/ -> /b/, /s/ -> /d/ /h/ -> 0
-Consonants are palatalized before a palatal, with /ts dz k s x h l n/ becoming [tʃ dʒ c ʃ ç ç ʎ ɲ]
-Nasals assimilate in POA to a following obstruent/nasal

Example sentence:
pahtyi métióh decu lasőkidzü öbihyadzéxméc, éonak ütde toxmüehum ówe dajékébe öwmó.
[pɑçci metioh dɛt͡su lɑsøkɯd͡zy œbiçɑd͡zegmet͡s eɔnɑk ydːɛ tɔgmyɛhum owʌ dajekɤbɛ œwmo]
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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I just had to click on that linky. Boy, did I get weirdness! Pre-nasalized co-articulated consonsants? Is that even a thing??? I think I love this.


Consonants
Nasal / ŋ͡m m n̻ ŋ /
Prenasalised stop / ŋ͡mg͡b mb mɓ̰ nnɗ̰̻ ŋg /
Stop / k͡pʰ k͡p pʰ p ɓ̰ t̻ʰ t̻ ɗ̰̻ kʰ k /
Fricative / s̻ z˂̻ x /
Approximant / l̻ /


Vowels
High / i y u /
Mid-high / e ø o /
Low / a /


Syllable structure
(C1)V(C2)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant


Allophony
  • [mɓ̰ nɗ̰̻ k͡pʰ k͡p pʰ p t̻ʰ t̻ kʰ k ɓ̰ ɗ̰̻ z˂̻] assimilate in aspiration to a preceding consonant other than [l̻]. After an aspirated stop, implosive obstruents become unaspirated; creaky-voiced implosives become non-creaky-voiced nasals; [z˂̻] become [n̻].
  • [mɓ̰ nɗ̰̻ k͡pʰ k͡p pʰ p t̻ʰ t̻ kʰ k ɓ̰ ɗ̰̻] persistently assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding obstruent. After a creaky-voiced implosive, aspirated stops become unaspirated.
  • Non-ejective non-nasal voiced vowels and non-glottal stop non-nasal voiced consonants other than non-implosive obstruents or [z˂̻ l̻], i.e. [mɓ ɗ̻ e ...], persistently become creaky-voiced [mɓ̰ ɗ̰̻ ḛ ...] before a creaky-voiced implosive.
  • Short non-nasal voiced phones [ŋ͡mg͡b ɓ̰ u ...] persistently become voiceless [k͡p ɓ̥ʼ u̥ ...] after a voiceless aspirated stop. Prenasalised stops become non-prenasalised; prenasalised implosives become voiced.
  • Stops [ŋ͡mg͡b k͡p k ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a following non-lateral obstruent or nasal and become voiceless word-finally.
  • Before a voiceless consonant other than [l̥̻], prenasalised stops become non-prenasalised; prenasalised implosives become voiced. Before a voiced consonant other than [l̻], aspirated stops become unaspirated; non-implosive ejective stops become non-glottalised.
  • Nasals [ŋ͡m m n̻ ŋ] persistently become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
  • Short non-prenasalised non-alveolar voiced stops other than [g͡b], i.e. [b g ɓ ɓ̰], are deleted between a vowel and a vowel.
  • Short non-ejective unaspirated voiceless vowels and short non-glottal stop non-glottal fricative voiceless approximants [l̥̻ y̥ ø̥ ...] become voiced [l̻ y ø ...] between a voiced phone and a voiced phone.
  • Unaspirated obstruents [ŋ͡mg͡b g͡b ɓ̥ʼ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a preceding obstruent. After a voiceless consonant other than [l̥̻], prenasalised stops become non-prenasalised; prenasalised implosives become voiced. After a voiced obstruent, non-implosive ejective stops become non-glottalised; [x] are deleted.
  • Vowels [i ṵ ø̥ ...] become nasal [ẽ õ̰ ø̥̃ ...] after a nasal. High vowels become non-high.

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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Damn look at dem vowels

Consonants
Nasal /m n/
Stop /p b t d k g k͡p g͡b/
Fricative /ɸ β s z xʷ h/
Trill /r/
Approximant /l ʟ w/

Vowels
High /u/
Mid-low /ʌ ʌ̃ ɔ ɔ̃/

Syllable structure
(C1)V(R)(C2)(C3)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
R: a sonorant other than /h/; i.e. one of /m n r l w ʟ/
C2: one of /m n k͡p p t k ɸ s h r l w ʟ/
C3: an alveolar consonant; i.e. one of /n t d s z r l/

Allophony
Short non-glottal stop non-glottal fricative voiceless obstruents [k͡p t ɸ ...] become voiced [g͡b d β ...] between a voiced phone and a voiced phone.
Non-glottal stop obstruents [k͡p t β ...] assimilate in voice to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than resonant.
Nasals [m n] become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
Nasals [ŋ͡m m ŋ ...] become obstruents [g͡b b g ...] before a non-nasal voiced fricative.
Stops [k͡p b k ...] persistently become aspirated [k͡pʰ pʰ kʰ ...] before a glottal fricative. Voiced stops become voiceless.
Stops [k͡pʰ p kʰ ...] persistently assimilate in aspiration to a following consonant other than resonant. Before an aspirated consonant, voiced stops become voiceless.
Stops [k͡pʰ b k ...] persistently assimilate in aspiration to a preceding consonant other than resonant. After an aspirated consonant, voiced stops become voiceless.
Non-velar consonants [m tʰ s ...] become back [mˠ tˠʰ sˠ ...] before a velar consonant.
Unaspirated obstruents [k͡p tˠ ɸˠ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a following non-nasal consonant other than resonant and become voiceless word-finally.
Before a nasal, nasal vowels become non-nasal mid-low; nasal vowels become non-nasal mid-low.
[ʌ ɔ] become [ʌ̃ ɔ̃] before a nasal phone.
[w] become [ɔ̯] before a mid-low vowel.


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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Vowel system of seed 2023843620: /a ɔ o ʊ u/. No front vowels at all. Not even allophonically.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Here's two more seeds for you!
#1500911802, Obuzve [ɔg͡buzβ̞ɛ]

Phonemes:
/b t d t͡s k g g͡b/
/s z h/
/β̞ l j/
/m n/

/i ɛ ɨ a ɔ u/

Transcription:
<p t d c k g b>
<s z h>
<v l j>
<m n>

<i e y a o u>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V(C)

Allophony:
-All consonants (bar /j/) palatalize before a front vowel or semivowel, but /h/'s palatal variant is [j̥] and palatalized velars become true palatals
-/ɛ ɔ/ become [e o] before a nasal
-Nasals assimilate in POA to a following obstruent/nasal
-All consonants assimilate in palatalisation to the following consonant
-/ɨ/ -> /i/ after a palatalized consonant
-Back vowels centralize before /j/ and [j̥]
-Voiceless obstruents become voiced after a nasal
-Obstruents assimilate in voice to a preceding obstruent
-Voiced stops become aspirated before [h]
-/ɛ ɔ/ become [e o] before [j j̥]
-Semivowels become rounded before a rounded vowel
-Semivowels become mid-high after a non-high vowel
-Bilabial voiced stops or nasals become approximants after [w ʍ] and velar stops or nasals are deleted in the same environment
-Consonants labialize after [w ʍ] and palatalized consonants lose the palatalization in the same environment
-Non-back vowels and [j j̥] assimilate in frontness/palatalisation to a following semivowel
-Before [w ʍ] voiced semivowels are deleted and voiceless semivowels become /h/
-Unaspirated obstruents assimilate in voice to a following obstruent
-Non-front vowels assimilate in backness to a preceding mid-high semivowel

Example sentence:
Bey a sevo lubdacbubo azal ihaj u ezkit jemea.
[ɟ͡bɛɨ a sʲɛβ̞ɔ lug͡bdad͡zg͡bug͡bɔ azal ihae̯ u ɛzɟit jemʲɛa]

And #1480760177, Åžanřuqe [ɒʒæɴʷʁʷuqe]

Phonemes:
/p b t d t͡ʃ d͡ʒ k g q ɢ/
/f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ X ʁ h/
/ɾ w/
/m n ɲ ɴʷ/

/i y ɛ œ a ɒ ɔ u/

Transcription:
<p b t d č j k g q ɠ>
<f v s z š ž x ġ ƣ ř h>
<r w>
<m n ň ŋ>

<i y e ø a å o u>

Syllable structure:
(C)V(L)
L is one of /m n ɲ ɴʷ ɾ w/

Allophony:
-/ɲ/ becomes alveopalatal [nʲ] before /tʃ dʒ ʃ ʒ/
-Tense vowels and semivowels become lax before /ɾ/
-Nasals assimilate in POA to a following obstruent/nasal
(This rule is quite common, isn't it?)
-Coronal stops + coronal fricatives become affricates according to the stop
-[nʲ] returns to /ɲ/ before another /ɲ/
-Front vowels centralize before a semivowel
-Labial obstruents or nasals assimilate in labiodentality to a following labial obstruent or nasal
-Central vowels become back after uvulars
-Semivowels assimilate in laxity to a following (semi)vowel
-/n ɴʷ/ become [m mʷ] word-finally
-Central vowels become front after a coronal
-Semivowels assimilate in laxity to a preceding vowel or semivowel
-Non-coronal consonants become labialized before /ɔ u w/
-High vowels and semivowels become mid-high before uvulars

Example sentence:
Zåvo ƣexoeŋ urzaŋwywču i itu ryčatå řozåreŋžukø deɠu ƣaňve.
[zɒvʷɔ Xɛxʷɔɛmʷ oɾzæɴʷwywt͡ʃu i itu ɾyt͡ʃætɒ ʁʷɔzɔɾɛɲʒukœ dɛɢʷu Xɑɱvɛ]

Dear goodness, the allophony rules were hell to sift through. Modifying or removing redundant allophonic conditions is tough when they're presented as a contiguous wall of text.
For example, Åžanřuqe originally had a lot of rules pretaining to aspirated stops and affricates, but they were achieved by combining a stop/affricate with a following /h/- and since Åžanřuqe's syllable structure only allows sonorants in the coda, no aspirates can form and all rules pretaining to them were rendered void.
Just to give you a sense of the sh*t I have to deal with, here's Åžanřuqe's last allophony rule before parsing:
High vowels and semivowels [j̥ w ɨ ...] persistently become non-high [e̥̯ o̯ ɘ ...] before a non-near-high vowel or an uvular consonant except for a vowel or semivowel.
:lol:
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Oh, and for all those who are interested, I made the sample sentences with Zompist's gen and ran them through the allophony changes manually.
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ÜberBen wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:22 pm Oh, and for all those who are interested, I made the sample sentences with Zompist's gen and ran them through the allophony changes manually.
ah, that makes sense. i was wondering where all my "sample sentences" were.
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Now would'ja look at that

Consonants
Nasal /m n ŋ/
Stop /p mb t nd k ŋg ʔ/
Affricate /t͡θ̺ nd͡ð̺ t͡s nd͡z/
Fricative /f s/
Resonant /ɾ w/

Vowels
High /i u/
Mid-high /e o/
Mid-low /ɛ ɔ/
Low /a/

Syllable Structure
(C)V

C: a consonant
V: a vowel

Allophony

Non-back vowels other than [a], i.e. [i e ɛ], become central [ɨ ɘ ɜ] before a semivowel.
Voiceless stops other than [p], i.e. [t k t͡θ̺ t͡s], become ejective [tʼ kʼ t͡θ̺ʼ t͡sʼ] after a non-nasal glottal stop.
Semivowels [w] persistently become near-high [ʊ̯] before a lax vowel.
Non-high vowels [e o ɜ ...] become nasal [ẽ õ ɜ̃ ...] before a nasal.
Non-labial consonants other than semivowels [n tʼ t͡θ̺ ...] persistently become rounded [nʷ tʼʷ t͡θ̺ʷ ...] after a rounded semivowel.
[ʊ̯] become [w] before a high vowel or semivowel.
Before a rounded semivowel, low vowels become unrounded non-low; low vowels become unrounded non-low.
Short non-ejective non-glottal fricative voiceless obstruents [p kʷ t͡sʷ ...] become voiced [b gʷ d͡zʷ ...] between a voiced phone and a voiced phone.
Nasals [m n ŋ ...] become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
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Now this deserves a spot in the smithsonian

Consonants
Nasal /ɲ͡m ŋ͡m ŋ͡mˤ m n̻ ɲ ŋ ŋʷ ŋˤ ŋˤʷ ɴ ɴˤ/
Stop /c͡p k͡p k͡pˤ q͡p q͡pˤ p ɓ̰ ɓˤ̰ ɓʲ̰ t̻ ɗ̻̰ c k kʷ kˤʷ q/
Fricative /f v s̻ z̻ ʝ ɣ ɣˤ ʁ ʁˤ ħʰ ʕ h/
Resonant /ɾ̻ j w ʊ̯ˤ/

Vowels
High /i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/
Mid-low /ɛ ɛː ɛ̃ ɛː̃ ɔ ɔː ɔ̃ ɔː̃/
Low /a aː ã aː̃/

Syllable structure
(C1)V(C2)

C1: a consonant other than /ŋʷ ŋˤʷ/
V: a vowel
C2: a sonorant other than /ħʰ ʕ/; i.e. one of /ɲ͡m ŋ͡m ŋ͡mˤ m n̻ ɲ ŋ ŋʷ ŋˤ ŋˤʷ h/

Allophony
[h] become [ħʰ] before a pharyngealised consonant.
Voiceless stops [c͡p q͡pˤ k ...] persistently become aspirated [c͡pʰ q͡pˤʰ kʰ ...] before an aspirated radical.
Central vowels [ɨ a ã ...] become back [ɯ ɑ ɑ̃ ...] before a pharyngealised consonant.
[ŋ͡m ŋ͡mˤ m n̻ ŋ ŋʷ ŋˤ ŋˤʷ k͡pʰ k͡p k͡pˤʰ k͡pˤ pʰ p t̻ʰ t̻ kʰ k kʷʰ kʷ kˤʷʰ kˤʷ ɓ̰ ɓʲ̰ ɗ̻̰ f v s̻ z̻ ɣ ɣˤ h ɾ̻] assimilate in palatalisation to a preceding consonant other than semivowel. After a front consonant other than [j], [ŋ͡mˤ ŋʷ ŋˤ ŋˤʷ k͡pˤʰ k͡pˤ kʷʰ kʷ kˤʷʰ kˤʷ ɣˤ] become [ŋ͡m̟ˤ ŋ̟ʷ ŋ̟ˤ ŋ̟ˤʷ k͡p̟ˤʰ k͡p̟ˤ k̟ʷʰ k̟ʷ k̟ˤʷʰ k̟ˤʷ ɣ̟ˤ]; alveolar consonants other than [ɾ̻] become alveopalatal; [t̻ʰ t̻] become [t͡ɕʰ t͡ɕ]; [h] become [j̥].
Non-sibilant coronal coronal stops [t̻ʰ t̻ ɗ̻̰ ɗʲ̱̰] become sibilants [t͡s̻ʰ t͡s̻ ɗ͡z̻̰ ɗ͡ʑ̰] before a front high tense vowel or a high palatal tense semivowel.
Alveopalatal stops or nasals [nʲ̱ ɗʲ̱̰ t͡ɕ ...] become non-affricate non-coronal palatal [ɲ c ...] before a palatal obstruent or nasal. Implosives are deleted.
Tense vowels and semivowels [j̥ i ɯ ...] persistently become lax [ɪ̯̥ ɪ ʊ̜ ...] after a pharyngealised consonant.
Non-pharyngealised velar obstruents or nasals [ŋ͡m k͡pʰ k ...] become palatal [ɲ͡m c͡pʰ c ...] after a front vowel or semivowel. Rounded stops or nasals become velar.
Stops [c͡pʰ pʲʰ kˤʷʰ ...] persistently assimilate in glottalisation to a following non-nasal consonant other than resonant. Before a creaky-voiced implosive, aspirated stops become unaspirated.
Palatal obstruents or nasals [cʼ ɲ c͡pʰ ...] persistently become alveopalatal [t͡ɕʼ nʲ̱ t͡ɕʰ ...] before an alveopalatal obstruent or nasal. Stops become affricates; bilabial stops or nasals become non-labial.
High vowels and semivowels [j̥ i ɪ ...] become non-high [e̯̥ e ɛ ...] before a non-near-high vowel or an uvular consonant except for a vowel or semivowel.
[ɓ ɓˤ ɓʲ ɗ̻ ɗʲ̱ ɗ͡z̻ ɗ͡ʑ ʕ i iː ɨ ɨː ɯ ɯː u uː ɪ ɪː ɪ̈ ɪ̈ː ʊ̜ ʊ̜ː ʊ ʊː e eː ɘ ɘː ɤ ɤː o oː ɛ ɛː ɛ̃ ɛː̃ ɜ ɜː ʌ ʌː ɔ ɔː ɔ̃ ɔː̃ a aː ã aː̃ ɑ ɑː ɑ̃ ɑː̃] persistently become creaky-voiced after a creaky-voiced implosive. [ʕ] are deleted.
Dorsal obstruents or nasals [ɲ͡m k͡pʼ k ...] persistently assimilate in uvularity to a following dorsal obstruent or nasal. Before an uvular obstruent or nasal, non-back obstruents or nasals become uvular; palatal obstruents or nasals become uvular.
[o̯ ɔ̯] are deleted after a non-low front vowel or a front semivowel.
High vowels and semivowels [j̥ ɨː ɪː̰ ...] persistently become non-high [e̯̥ ɘː ɛː̰ ...] before a pharyngealised consonant.
Stops [c͡pʰ t̻ʰ qʷ ...] assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than resonant. After a glottalised stop, aspirated stops become unaspirated.
Tense vowels and semivowels [j̥ ɨː eː̰ ...] persistently become lax [ɪ̯̥ ɪ̈ː ɛː̰ ...] before a pharyngealised consonant.
Front vowels and semivowels [j̥ ḭ eː ...] become central [h ɨ̰ ɘː ...] before a back semivowel. Voiced semivowels are deleted; voiceless semivowels become aspirated radicals.
Vowels and semivowels other than central low vowels [j̥ ɪː ɛː̰ ...] persistently assimilate in frontness or palatalisation to a preceding uvular consonant. After an uvular consonant, voiceless semivowels become aspirated radicals; voiced front semivowels are deleted. After a mid palatalised uvular semivowel, rounded vowels become unrounded; low vowels become non-front; non-pharyngealised velar or uvular semivowels are deleted; pharyngealised semivowels become unrounded non-front radicals.
Front vowels and semivowels [j̥ ḭ eː ...] become non-front [h ɨ̰ ɘː ...] after an uvular obstruent or nasal. Voiced semivowels are deleted; voiceless semivowels become aspirated radicals.
Vowels and semivowels other than central low vowels [j̥ ɪː ɛː̰ ...] assimilate in frontness or palatalisation to a preceding uvular consonant. After an uvular consonant, voiceless semivowels become aspirated radicals; non-back voiced semivowels are deleted. After a mid palatalised uvular semivowel, rounded vowels become unrounded; low vowels become non-front; non-pharyngealised back semivowels are deleted; pharyngealised semivowels become unrounded non-front radicals.
Unaspirated obstruents [c͡p k ɗʲ̱̰ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a preceding obstruent. After a voiced obstruent, [c͡pʼ k͡pʼ k͡p̟ˤʼ k͡pˤʼ q͡pʼ q͡pˤʼ pʼ pʲʼ t̻ʼ t͡s̻ʼ t͡ɕʼ] become [ɓʲ̰ ɓ̰ ɓˤ̰ ɓˤ̰ ɓ̰ ɓˤ̰ ɓ̰ ɓʲ̰ ɗ̻̰ ɗ͡z̻̰ ɗ͡ʑ̰]; [cʼ kʷʼ kˤʷʼ qʷʼ qˤʷʼ] become [j w ʊ̯ˤ w ʊ̯ˤ]; [k̟ʷʼ kʼ qʼ] are deleted; [k̟ˤʷʼ] become [ʕ]. After a voiceless obstruent, implosives become non-implosive.
Non-front vowels and velar or uvular semivowels other than central low vowels [w ʊ̜̰ ɜ̃ ...] become front [ ɪ̰ ɛ̃ ...] after a front consonant. Rounded vowels become unrounded; low vowels become central; non-pharyngealised semivowels are deleted; pharyngealised semivowels become unrounded non-front radicals.
Back vowels and semivowels [ɑ̃ ɤː ɔ̯ ...] persistently become central [ã ɘː ...] before a front semivowel. Rounded vowels become unrounded; non-pharyngealised semivowels are deleted; pharyngealised semivowels become unrounded radicals.
Obstruents [c͡pʰ tʲ̱ʼ ɓˤ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a following consonant other than resonant. Before a voiceless consonant other than a resonant, implosives become non-implosive. Before a voiced consonant other than a resonant, aspirated stops become unaspirated; unrounded non-implosive ejective stops other than [cʼ kʼ qʼ] become implosives; [cʼ kʷʼ kˤʷʼ qʷʼ qˤʷʼ] become [j w ʊ̯ˤ w ʊ̯ˤ]; bilabial-palatal or velar ejective stops become non-dorsal; [k̟ʷʼ kʼ qʼ] are deleted; [k͡pʼ k͡pˤʼ] become [ɓ̰ ɓˤ̰]; [q͡pʼ q͡pˤʼ] become [ɓ̰ ɓˤ̰]; [k̟ˤʷʼ] become [ʕ].
[c͡pʰ c͡p k͡pʰ k͡p k͡p̟ˤʰ k͡p̟ˤ k͡pˤʰ k͡pˤ q͡pʰ q͡p q͡pˤʰ q͡pˤ pʰ p pˤ pʲʰ pʲ t̻ʰ t̻ tʲ̱ cʰ c k̟ʷʰ k̟ʷ kʰ k kʷʰ kʷ k̟ˤʷʰ k̟ˤʷ kˤʷʰ kˤʷ qʰ q qʷʰ qʷ qˤʷʰ qˤʷ ɓ ɓˤ ɓʲ ɗ̻ ɗʲ̱ t͡s̻ʰ t͡s̻ t͡ɕʰ t͡ɕ ɗ͡z̻ ɗ͡ʑ] assimilate in aspiration to a preceding consonant other than resonant. After an aspirated consonant, voiced implosives become unaspirated; implosives become non-implosive.
[ɲ͡m mʲ n̻ nʲ̱ ɲ ŋ ŋ̟ˤ ŋˤ ɴ ɴˤ c͡pʰ c͡p c͡pʼ ɟ͡b pʲʰ pʲ pʲʼ bʲ t̻ʰ t̻ t̻ʼ d̻ tʲʰ̱ tʲ̱ tʲ̱ʼ dʲ̱ cʰ c cʼ ɟ kʰ k kʼ g qʰ q qʼ ɢ ɓʲ ɓʲ̰ ɗ̻ ɗ̻̰ ɗʲ̱ ɗʲ̱̰ t͡s̻ʰ t͡s̻ t͡s̻ʼ d͡z̻ t͡ɕʰ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ ɗ͡z̻ ɗ͡z̻̰ ɗ͡ʑ ɗ͡ʑ̰ fʲ vʲ s̻ z̻ ɕ ʑ ç ʝ x ɣ x̟ˤ ɣ̟ˤ xˤ ɣˤ χ ʁ χˤ ʁˤ h ɾ̻ ɾʲ̻ j̥ j ɪ̯̥ ɪ̯ e̯̥ e̯ ɛ̯̥ ɛ̯] become rounded before a high rounded vowel or semivowel. [ɲ͡m mʲ c͡pʰ c͡p c͡pʼ ɟ͡b pʲʰ pʲ pʲʼ bʲ ɓʲ ɓʲ̰ fʲ vʲ j̥ ɪ̯̥ e̯̥ ɛ̯̥] become [ŋ͡m̟ ŋ͡m̟ k͡p̟ʰ k͡p̟ k͡p̟ʼ g͡b̟ k͡p̟ʰ k͡p̟ k͡p̟ʼ g͡b̟ ɓ ɓ̰ x̟ ɣ̟ h h h h]; front consonants other than voiced semivowels become non-front; [h j ɪ̯ e̯ ɛ̯] are deleted.
Short non-glottalised unaspirated voiceless fricatives [f ç x̟ˤʷ ...] become voiced [v ʝ ɣ̟ˤʷ ...] between a voiced phone and a voiced phone.
Non-creaky-voiced voiced vowels [i ʊː ɜ̃ ...] become creaky-voiced [ḭ ʊː̰ ɜ̰̃ ...] before a creaky-voiced implosive.


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when the hell did that happen
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Yet another two seeds:
#1491180033, Piyek Osc [piyec ost͡s]

Phonemes:
/p t t͡s k ʔ/
/s/
/j w/
/m n/

/i e a o u/

Transcription:
<p t c k '>
<s>
<y w>
<m n>

<i e a o u>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V(N)(C)
N is one of /m n t s j w/

Allophony:
-Semivowels become mid-high after a lax vowel
-/t/ + /s/ = /t͡s/
-Back vowels become central after a front semivowel, the back semivowels are deleted in the same environment
-/k/ becomes [c] after [i j e̯]
-[o̯] is deleted before [i j e̯]
-Front vowels become central before a back semivowel, the front semivowels are deleted in the same environment
-/n/ assimilates in POA to a following obstruent/nasal

Sample sentence:
Ka ke 'ats mi ete a tak tamkko? Weya na peyiyi 'imp cemm'e yuwtyo.
[ka ke ʔat͡s mi ete a tak tamkːo wee̯a na pee̯iji ʔimp t͡semːe jʉwtjɵ]

And #1585649123, Kahna Tahnhici [kãna tãɳit͡ʃi]

Phonemes:
/t tʰ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʰ k kʰ/
/f/
/l j ɰ/
/m n ɳ/

/i e a ɑ o u/

Transcription:
<t th c ch k kh>
<f>
<l y w>
<m n nh>

<i e a ah o u>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V

Allophony:
-Vowels nasalize before a nasal
-Front vowels centralize before /ɳ/
-Back vowels become front before a coronal
-/ɰ/ becomes [w] after a rounded vowel

Sample sentence:
Nhi yahkhuya ti nechah ekou tah khu le, uwiyah afilu temoikhoe thani wawi wu ma.
[ɳi jɑkʰyja ti net͡ʃʰɑ ekou tɑ kʰu le uwijɑ afilu tẽmoikʰoe tʰãni ɰaɰi ɰu ma]
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Seed 1901630755 gives us this lovely rule, slightly edited because as written it interferes with BBCode:
Between a vowel and a vowel or an approximant, [d] become [t]; b become [ɸ]; [g] are deleted.
I am aware that something similar is thought to have happened along the way to Kiput, but it's still really unlikely.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Two more seeds for your enjoyment:
#1547964579, Mojēwlāpēeka [mɔd͡zɛːʟaːpoːka]

Phonemes:
/p b ɓ t d ɗ t͡s d͡z k g/
/f θ s x xʷ/
/l j ʟ/
/m n/

/i y e ø ɛ œ a ɔ o u/ + length

Transcription:
<p b b' t d d' c j k g>
<f x s h wh>
<l y wl>
<m n>

<i ü ee öö e ö a o oo u> (short)
<ī û ēe ôö ē ô ā ō ōo ū> (long

Syllable Structure:
(C)V

Allophony:
-/a/ becomes /ɛ/ before /j/
-Back vowels centralize before /j/
-[j] becomes [ɛ̯] after a lax vowel
-Non-back vowels become back before velars. The unrounded front vowels also become rounded

Sample Sentence:
Bad'e pōob'ā côö sôöwhödee no ub'ûhôxū eeyofōo wlôjōobooyo peeyô dēenôme.
[baɗɛ poːɓaː t͡søː soːxʷœde nɔ uɓuːxœːθuː ejɔfoː ʟœːd͡zoːbɵjɔ pejœ deːnœːmɛ]

And #1558188434, Wibitoar [wiβidoæɾ]

Phonemes:
/p b t d k g ʔ/
/f s/
/ɾ j w/
/m n/

/i e a o u/

Transcription:
<p b t d k g ʔ>
<f s>
<r y w>
<m n>

<i e a o u>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V(N)
N is one of /m n b g ɾ j w/

Allophony:
-Voiced stops become fricatives between (semi)vowels, but /ʔ/ is unaffected and /d/ turns to [z]
-Voiceless obstruents are voiced between two voiced phones
-Velar obstruents become palatal after /i j/
-Labial obstruents and nasals assimilate in labiodentality to a following labial obstruent or nasal
-Before /j/ back vowels become unrounded central vowels and /w/ is deleted
-Nasals assimilate in POA to a following obstruent/nasal
-Voiced Non-nasal consonants become voiceless word-finally
-Semivowels become mid-low before lax vowels
-Voiceless obstruents + /ʔ/ = Ejectives
-Vowels and semivowels assimilate in frontness/palatalisation to a preceding mid-low semivowel, but:
After [ɛ̯] rounded vowels and semivowels become unrounded and /a/ become [ɛ]
After [ɔ̯] front semivowels are deleted
-Vowels and semivowels nasalize before a nasal
-Central vowels become front after a coronal

Sample Sentence:
Otirim dasopoo rirebe bei fiw dun i kiewemum biketomu foyʔi fowug redi!
[odirĩm dæzoboo rireβe bei fiʍ dũn i kieɔ̯ẽmũm biɟedõmu fɘjʔi fowuk rezi]
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Another pair of seeds:
#1404112471, Nekkyhhŏ [nɛkʕɯ̽ˤʕɤ]

Phonemes:
/p t t͡s k kʕ/
/s ħ ʕ/
/β̞ ɾ/
/m n/

/i e a ʌ ɤ o ɯ u/

Transcription:
<p t ts k kk>
<s h hh>
<w r>
<m n>

<i e a ə ŏ o y u>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V

Allophony:
-Tense vowels become lax when neighboring /kʕ ʕ ħ/, and High vowels become pharyngealised
-/a/ backs into /ɑ/ before /kʕ ʕ ħ/
-Mid-low vowels become low after /kʕ ʕ ħ/, and Non-back vowels become non-front (Front -> Central, Central -> Back)
-/s/ is voiced between vowels
-Front vowels become central after /kʕ ʕ ħ/

Sample Sentence:
Nŏ symeane asuiroe hhŏwə py iha kkesa hoso pe rahhŏ.
[nɤ sɯmeane azuiɾoe ʕɑβ̞ʌ pɯ ɪʕħɑ kʕaza ħɔzo pe rɑʕɑ]

And #1807689428, Luzzõus [lʷut͡sʷːõus]

Phonemes:
/p pʰ t tʰ t͡s t͡sʰ c cʰ k kʰ/
/s/
/w l j/
/m n/

/i ɛ a ɔ u/ + Nasality

Transcription:
<b p d t z c gy ky g k>
<s>
<w l y>
<m n>

<i e a o u> + Tilde

Syllable Structure:
(C)V(C)

Allophony:
-All consonants except for /c cʰ w j/ palatalize before a palatal
-Aspirated stops de-aspirate before other consonants (except approximants) and word-finally
-Before /p pʰ m/ palatal or velar stops become bilabial
[n nʲ] assimilate in POA to a following obstruent/nasal
-All consonants except for /p pʰ m j w/ labialize before /ɔ u w/, and palatal stops/nasals become velar
-Unaspirated stops aspirate after an aspirate

Sample Sentence:
Adkõb cauwbu cãgyã getũnmãw ĩugy ũkyõz iwpaãm.
[atkʷʰɔ̃p t͡sʰawpʷu t͡sʰãcã ketʷʰũmmãw ĩuc ũkʰɔt͡s iwpʰaãm]
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Alright, last two seeds for this batch and I'll let the thread rest.
#1510769164, 7unt'amer [ʔunt'amɛɾ]

Phonemes:
/p p' t t' k k' q q' ʔ/
/s/
/β̞ l r ɾ j/
/m n/

/i ɛ a ɔ u/

Transcription:
<p p' t t' k k' q q' 7>
<s>
<w l rr r y>
<m n>

<i e a o u>

Syllable Structure:
(S)(C)(R)V(C)
S is /s/ or a sonorant
R is one of /m n β̞ l j/
/r/ cannot be a coda

Allophony:
-Stops assimilate in ejectivity to a neighboring Obstruent
-/u ɔ/ centralize when neighboring /j/
-Non-nasal consonants assimilate in voice to a following Obstruent/Nasal, but:
Before a voiceless consonant, voiced resonants become obstruents
Before a nasal, ejectives become plain stops and /ʔ/ elides
-All consonants except for /q q' j/ + /j/ = palatalized consonants, and /ʔʲ/ => /j/
-Consonants other than [c cʼ ɟ q q' j] assimilate in palatalisation to the following consonant, but:
Before a coronal, /ʔ/ turns to /j/
Before a non-coronal, [kʲ] turns to /k/
-Before [l lʲ], /r ɾ/ both turn to /l/
-Before /r ɾ/, [l lʲ] both turn to /ɾ/
-/ɾɾ/ => /r/
-Nasals assimilate in POA to a following Obstruent/Nasal
-Velar and uvular stops/nasals assimilate in uvularity to a following dorsal that isn't /j/
-[ŋ ɴ k kʼ g q qʼ ɢ i ɛ] become labialized/rounded before a bilabial consonant
-Dental stops + /s/ => affricates
-/j/ becomes near-high before lax vowels
-Before /i ɛ j/, uvular stops become velar and lose labialization

Sample Sentence:
Owmri nniq u we qwip k'oyrutlk'o p'mat'p'et' pmememlrapai? Qesrray7nuoq' k'lop'oro.
[ɔβ̞mɾi nːiq u β̞ɛ kwip k'ɞjɾutlk'ɔ bmat'p'ɛt' bmɛmɛmrapai qɛsrajnuɔq' k'lɔp'ɔɾɔ]

And #1494484427, Sukpu [suk͡pu]

Phonemes:
/p mb t nd k ŋg k͡p ŋ͡mg͡b/
/s x/
/r l j/

/i e a o u/

Transcription:
<p b t d k g kp gb>
<s h>
<r l y>

<i e a o u>

Syllable Structure:
(C)V

Allophony
-/ŋg/ becomes /ɣ/ between vowels
-/j/ becomes near-high before a lax vowel
-(Labial-)Velar obstruents palatalize before /i/
-Back vowels become front after /j/, and /a/ turns to [ɛ] in the same environment

Sample Sentence:
Ouhua oakpu pi gbosoha yeku gie, u ubeo gbe poli dolo yi kpego.
[ouxua oak͡pu pi ŋ͡mg͡bosoxa ɪ̯eku ɲɟie u umbeo ŋ͡mg͡be poli ndolo ji k͡peɣo]
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

Post by Bessunire »

Look at those affricates.

Phonemic inventory
Consonants Labial Laminal
alveolar Palatoalv. Velar Velar
lateral Uvular Glottal
Nasal m n̻ ŋ
Stop p t̻ t̻ʼ ṯ tʼ̱ k kʼ q qʼ
Affricate t͡s̻ t͡s̻ʼ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ k͡x k͡xʼ k͡xˡ k͡xʼˡ q͡χ q͡χʼ
Fricative f s̻ ʃ x xˡ χ h
Approximant ʟ

Vowels Front Back
High i u
Mid-low ɛ ɔ
Low ɑ

Syllable structure

(C1)V(C2)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant

Allophony

Stops or nasals other than [t͡s̻ t͡s̻ʼ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ], i.e. [m ṯ k͡x ...], become non-affricate and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent. Before one of [p f], [k͡xˡ k͡xʼˡ] become non-lateral and assimilate in place of articulation. Before an uvular obstruent, [k͡xˡ k͡xʼˡ] become [q qʼ]. Before a coronal obstruent or nasal other than [n̻], [k͡xˡ k͡xʼˡ] become affricates and assimilate in anteriority.
Non-ejective stops [p k t͡ɬ̱ ...] persistently become aspirated [pʰ kʰ t͡ɬʰ̱ ...] after a glottal fricative.
Stops [pʰ k t͡ɬʼ̱ ...] persistently assimilate in glottalisation to a following voiceless consonant and become non-ejective word-finally. Before an ejective stop, aspirated stops become unaspirated.
Back vowels [u ɔ ɑ] persistently become non-back [ɨ ɜ a] before a palatoalveolar obstruent or nasal. Vowels other than [ɑ] become unrounded.
Velar or uvular consonants [ŋ qʼ q͡χʰ ...] persistently assimilate in highness or uvularity to a following velar or uvular consonant. Before an uvular obstruent or nasal, consonant laterals other than [ʟ] become non-lateral; [ʟ] are deleted.
Tense vowels [i ɨ u] become non-high [e ɘ o] before a non-near-high vowel or an uvular consonant except for a vowel.
[a] become [ɜ] before a velar consonant.
Non-ejective stops [pʰ kʰ t͡ɬ̱ ...] persistently assimilate in aspiration to a following consonant other than [ʟ] and become unaspirated word-finally.
Labial obstruents or nasals [m p p̪ ...] persistently assimilate in labiodentality to a following labial obstruent or nasal.
Stops [pʰ k t͡ɬʼ̱ ...] persistently assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding voiceless consonant. After an ejective stop, aspirated stops become unaspirated.
Coronal obstruents or nasals [n̻ tʼ̱ t͡ɬʰ̱ ...] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following coronal obstruent or nasal other than non-affricate stop or nasal.
Velar or uvular obstruents or nasals [ŋ q k͡xʼˡ ...] become rounded [ŋʷ qʷ k͡xʼˡʷ ...] after a labial obstruent or nasal.
Central vowels [ɨ ɘ ɜ a] become back [ɑ ɑ ɑ ɑ] before an uvular obstruent or nasal. Vowels other than [a] become low; tense vowels become lax; [ɨ] become [ɑ].
Non-front mid vowels [ɘ o ɜ ɔ] become low [a ɒ a ɒ] before an uvular obstruent or nasal. Mid-high vowels become lax.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Just a quick notice, I fixed a few errors, changed Nekkyhhŏ's (Formerly Koreo-Arabic) vowel transcription and given the gleblangs unique autonyms.
The next batch of seeds will be ready soon.
In the meantime, keep posting your own crazy seeds!
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

Post by bbbosborne »

I don't actually know what's happening here

Consonants
Nasal /m n̻ nʲ̻/
Stop /p b ɓ̰ t̻ tʼ̻ d̻ ɗ̰̻ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ k kʼ g/
"Fricatives" /s̻ ʃ ʒ˂̰ ɕ ʑ˂̰/
Approximant /l̻ j w/

Vowels
High /i ɨ u/
Mid-high /e ẽ o õ/
/a ã/

Syllable structure
(C1)(C2)V(R)(C3)

C1: a consonant other than a non-front palatoalveolar obstruent (/t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ ʃ ʒ˂̰/)
C2: a consonant
V: a vowel
R: a sonorant; i.e. one of /m n̻ nʲ̻ l̻ j w/
C3: a non-front consonant; i.e. a consonant other than /nʲ̻ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ ɕ ʑ˂̰ j/

Allophony
Central vowels [ɨ a ã] become front [i æ æ̃] after a front consonant.
[b d̻ g d͡ʒ d͡ʑ i ɨ u e ẽ o õ æ æ̃ a ã] persistently become creaky-voiced before a creaky-voiced obstruent. Stops other than [g] become implosive; palatoalveolar affricates become fricatives; [g] are deleted.
(169) Central vowels [ɨ a ã ...] persistently become front [i æ æ̃ ...] before a front consonant.
Non-sibilant coronal alveolar nasals [n̻ nʲ̻] become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
Consonants other than [j w], i.e. [m tʼ̻ d͡ʒ ...], become rounded [mʷ tʼʷ̻ d͡ʒʷ ...] before a rounded semivowel.
Back vowels and semivowels [w ṵ o̰ ...] become central [j ʉ̰ ɵ̰ ...] before a palatal semivowel. [w] become [j].
Non-nasal consonants [p gʷ t͡ɕʼʷ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a following obstruent. Before a voiced obstruent, ejective affricates become implosive fricatives; [tʼ̻ tʼʷ̻] become [ɗ̰̻ ɗ̰ʷ̻]; [kʼʷ] become [w]; [kʼ] are deleted. Before a voiceless obstruent, implosive obstruents become non-implosive.
Rule (169) becomes inactive.
Front vowels [i ḛ æ ...] persistently become central [ɨ ɘ̰ a ...] before a velar semivowel.
[p pʼ b pʷ pʼʷ bʷ t̻ tʼ̻ d̻ tʷ̻ tʼʷ̻ dʷ̻ k kʼ g kʷ kʼʷ gʷ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ t͡ʃʷ t͡ʃʼʷ d͡ʒʷ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ t͡ɕʷ t͡ɕʼʷ d͡ʑʷ ʃʼ ʃʼ ʃʷ ʃʼʷ ɕ ɕʼ ɕʼʷ ɕʼʷ] persistently assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding obstruent or nasal. After a glottalised obstruent, [ʃʼ ɕʼʷ] become [ʃ ɕʷ]; non-velar voiced stops become implosive; voiced affricate sibilants become fricatives; [gʷ] become [w]; [g] are deleted.
Non-lateral coronal obstruents or nasals [n̻ t͡ʃ ʃ ...] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following obstruent sibilant. Before an obstruent sibilant, [ʃʼ] become non-glottalised and assimilate in anteriority. Before a palatoalveolar obstruent sibilant, non-affricate stops become affricate sibilants; [ɕʼʷ] become [ɕʷ]. Before an alveolar fricative, [ʃʼʷ] become [sʷ̻].
Front vowels [i ḛ æ ...] become central [ɨ ɘ̰ a ...] after a velar semivowel.
Bilabial stops or nasals [m pʼ pʼʷ ...] become palatalised [mʲ pʼʲ pʼʲʷ ...] before a palatalised obstruent or nasal.
Bilabial stops or nasals [m b pʲʷ ...] assimilate in dorsality and uvularity and palatalisation and whether palatal or palatalised velar to a following obstruent or nasal and become non-palatal or velar word-finally. Before a velar stop or nasal, palatalised stops or nasals become non-velar non-palatal or velar.
Voiceless obstruents other than [s̻ sʷ̻ sʲ̻ sʲʷ̻ ʃ ʃʷ ɕ ɕʷ], i.e. [p k t͡ʃʼ ...], persistently become aspirated [pʰ kʰ t͡ʃʰ ...] before a phone except for a non-nasal vowel or approximant. Obstruents other than stops become unaspirated; ejective obstruents become non-glottalised.
Coronal obstruents or nasals [n̻ t͡sʲ̻ sʷ̻ ...] assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a preceding coronal consonant. After an alveolar consonant, [ʃʼʷ] become [sʷ̻]. After a coronal consonant, [ʃʼ] become non-glottalised and assimilate in anteriority. After a palatoalveolar obstruent or nasal, non-sibilant coronal stops become affricate sibilants; [sʼʲʷ̻ ɕʼʷ] become [ɕʷ ɕʷ].
Unrounded velar stops or nasals [ŋ kʰ kʼ ...] become rounded [ŋʷ kʰʷ kʼʷ ...] before a bilabial stop or nasal.
Obstruents [pʰ ɓ̰ʲ d͡ʑʷ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a preceding obstruent. After a voiced obstruent, aspirated stops become unaspirated; non-velar ejective stops become implosive; ejective affricates become fricatives; [sʼʲ̻ sʼʲʷ̻ ʃʼʷ ɕʼ] become [zʲ̻ zʲʷ̻ ʒʷ ʑ]; [kʼ] are deleted; [kʼʷ] become [w]. After an obstruent, [ʃʼ ɕʼʷ] become non-glottalised and assimilate in voice. After a voiceless obstruent, implosive obstruents become non-implosive.
Non-creaky-voiced voiced vowels [i ẽ o ...] become creaky-voiced [ḭ ḛ̃ o̰ ...] after a creaky-voiced obstruent.
[sʼ̻ sʼʷ̻ ʃʼ ɕʼʷ] persistently become laminal before a coronal consonant.
[sʼ̻ sʼʷ̻ ʃʼ ɕʼʷ] persistently become laminal before a coronal consonant.
Non-pharyngeal consonants [m g t͡ɕʼʷ ...] assimilate in palatalisation to a following consonant. Before a non-front consonant, [sʼ̻ sʼʷ̻ sʼʲ̻ sʼʲʷ̻ ʃʼ ɕʼ] become [s̻ sʷ̻ s̻ sʷ̻ ʃ ʃ]. Before a front consonant, velar rounded stops or nasals become unrounded; [ʃʼʷ ɕʼʷ] become [ɕʷ ɕʷ].

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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Phonemic inventory
Consonants
Labial Alveolar Retroflex Velar Glottal
Nasal m n ɳ
Prenasalised stop mb nd ɳɖ ŋg
Stop p b t d ʈ ɖ k g ʔ
Fricative f s ʂ
Approximant w

Vowels
Front Central Back
High i ɯ u
Mid-high e ɤ o
Low a
Syllable structure
(C1)V(C2)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant other than a non-prenasalised voiced stop (/b d ɖ g/)

Allophony
Voiceless stops [p t ʈ k] persistently become ejective [pʼ tʼ ʈʼ kʼ] after a non-nasal glottal stop.
Short non-prenasalised voiced stops [d ɖ g b] persistently become fricatives [ β] between a vowel or semivowel and a vowel or semivowel. Stops other than are deleted.
Coronal obstruents or nasals [n t ʈʼ ...] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following fricative sibilant.
[ɯ ɤ] become before a rounded semivowel.
Voiceless stops [p t ʈʼ ...] persistently assimilate in glottalisation to a following non-nasal consonant other than [w].
Non-ejective voiceless stops [p t ʈ k] become ejective [pʼ tʼ ʈʼ kʼ] before a glottal stop.
Front vowels [e i] persistently become central [ɘ ɨ] before a velar semivowel.
Coronal stops [nd t ʈ ...] become sibilants [nd͡z t͡s ʈ͡ʂ ...] before a non-nasal coronal fricative.
[ɯ ɤ] become before a rounded semivowel.
Vowels [i u ɤ ...] become nasal [ĩ ũ ɤ̃ ...] before a nasal.
Non-nasal consonants other than [ʔ], i.e. [mb d t͡sʼ ...], assimilate in voice to a following non-nasal consonant other than [w]. Before a voiceless consonant, prenasalised stops become non-prenasalised. Before a voiced obstruent, ejective stops become non-ejective.
Alveolar obstruents or nasals [n tʼ t͡sʼ ...] persistently become retroflex [ɳ ʈʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ...] after a retroflex obstruent or nasal.
Prenasalised stops [mb ɳɖ nd͡z ...] become nasals [m ɳ n ...] before an obstruent or nasal. Affricates become non-sibilant coronal nasals.
Non-front vowels [ɨ u ɤ̃ ...] become retroflex [ɨ˞ ɨ˞ ɘ̃˞ ...] before a retroflex obstruent or nasal. Back vowels become central; rounded vowels become unrounded.
Some words
/dandʈu/ [datʈu]
/sigu/ [siu]
/kiɳɖɤp/ [kiɳɖɤp]
/ʂimbdi/ [ʂimdi]
/takaw/ [takaw]
/ʈep/ [ʈep]
/iʈa/ [iʈa]
/ʔogo/ [ʔoo]
/tambsuw/ [tapsuw]
/ʈatumb/ [ʈatumb]
/ɳɖaŋggand/ [ɳɖaŋgand]
/ʔiɳɖɯk/ [ʔiɳɖɯk]
/suʈaw/ [sɨ˞ʈaw]
/ʂiŋgʈuɳɖ/ [ʂikʈɨ˞ɳɖ]
/ʈaɳɖo/ [ʈa˞ɳɖo]
/ʂuɳɖguw/ [ʂɨ˞ɳguw]
/niʂimb/ [niʂimb]
/sund/ [sund]
/ŋgaŋgsa/ [ŋgaksa]
/taɳɖɳɖamb/ [ta˞ɳɳɖamb]
/sadu/ [sau]
/ɳitʈi/ [ɳitʈi]
/awɳi/ [awɳi]
/ʈiɳɖɖep/ [ʈiɳɖep]
/ɯ/ [ɯ]
/ʈau/ [ʈau]
/niŋgniw/ [niŋnɨw]
/ɖakeɳɖ/ [ɖakeɳɖ]
/taf/ [taf]
/duŋgduŋg/ [duŋduŋg]
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Has anyone put up a version of gleb's web interface that can take a seed as a parameter?

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"Uvular-palatal approximant" /e̯/ contrasting with /j/ at 1162979377.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, V2.0

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Seed 2116543716:

/ŋ͡m m n/
/k͡p g͡b k͡p͡x͡fˡ p b t d t͡s d͡z k g/
/s x/
/l/

/i ɨ a o/

Yes, that is /k͡p͡x͡fˡ/, a labiodental-velar lateral affricate.
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