Conlang fluency thread

[foxcatdog]

tu nawa kuki katapi, sakaja tu landa to kamimai
GEN weather unsettled/stormy, be.close storm GEN lightning DEM.Nonsp come-FUT
“The stormy weather is near, a thunderstorm will come!(1)”

kamiminisi nar tu ne na kondo tu turana rendu na ne
come-DES-2.sg(2) LAT GEN 1.sg LNK house(3) GEN shelter friend(4) LNK 1.sg
“Come in my sheltered house my friend”

kinunu! kamiminisi, masamiinsi juri kusimiinsi samba ama patismaa unamaa
welcome+REDP come-DES-2.sg sing-PERM-2.sg dance eat-PERM-2.sg drink be.like weasel-pl fox-pl
“Welcome! Come here, sing and dance, eat and drink(5). Like weasels and foxes(6)”

pai mena sulin anima naasansi piki tu siju
1.pau have water rum milk fresh GEN riding.beast
“We have water, rum(7) and milk fresh from the Siju(8)”

wa a manga puli
EXCLM EXCLM be.warm soup
“Oh and warm soup(9)”

1 Amarin is located in a place with a climate approximating a subtropical one so winters are very mild (and only relatively dry), what you have to worry about is the stormy season which occurs during the height of summer.
2 This is the assumed translation of the come here which i think implies the speaker desires the action
3 This is a loanword i swear the word for house is in my notebook (the one with dried up flowers stuck to the cover) which i cannot find also for emphasis the “my” component comes first
4 Again as above
5 You would not be using a serial verb construction if not for poetic effect due to the preceding one instead you would be using the separate verb *nekina
6 This is the appropriate idiom for “that’s the plan”
7 Amarin speakers are not familiar with beer
8 Riding Beast also kept for its milk as Amarin have no cows
9 It’s rainy, it gets cold during rain

[jal]

Like weasels and foxes(6)”
6 This is the appropriate idiom for “that’s the plan”

Love it! :).


JAL

[hwhatting]

I can't be entirely sure, but my language doesn't seem to be Germanic.

Tócí mai funnér.
so 1SG-DAT seem-3SG.PRES.ACT
It looks that way to me.

[foxcatdog]

a śarmanimaa
a śarmani-maa
INT germanics-pl
“Germanics?”

korromaa tu poko kʷakinnatani toa tu amitsambila pemaja komipa kakkapa na tu poko toto
korro-maa tu poko kʷakinna-tani toa tu amit+sam+bila pemaja komipa kakkapa na tu poko toto
warrior-pl GEN human assertive-INT DEM.3 GEN legend COP.SUB.3.pl be.comparable be.scary LNK GEN human any
“Those brash human warriors of legend are only as scary as any other human”

[xxx]

korromaa tu poko kʷakinnatani toa tu amitsambila pemaja komipa kakkapa na tu poko toto

w¾ÉUº^@¼Ë^¼w¾UÍ
(these former warriors now seen as toothless men...)
these famous warriors have very blunt teeth these days...

[Imralu]

these famous warriors have very blunt teeth these days...

Kavu wel iddžaman hož übbuweŋekaned.
But dentists in Germany are good.

[xxx]

_É@¼Ëa]É
(this future seen please as this present...)
long may it last...

[Lambuzhao]

I recently saw this video on Youtube, which compares the various modern Germanic languages using a somewhat contrived text, and I thought it would be fun to translate the text in Fake Germanic.

Kalt wintar is nehwa, snajwa-sturmas skales koman. Komet ine mynar warmar husar, myna frijon. Welokomet! Komet dywar, singet anda lajket, etet anda drinket. Dyswysam bidenkana. Wy haban watnam, byram anda melkar bys nyja fra kowar. A, anda hajta sasem.

The cold winter is near, a snowstorm will come. Come in my warm house, my friend. Welcome! Come here, sing and dance, eat and drink. That is my plan. We have water, beer and milk fresh from the cow. Oh, and warm soup!

The Fake Germanic follows the original pretty closely, except for the (very weird) "that is my plan", which I translated as "this (I) thought up", and I translated "warm soup" with "hot soup", which made more sense to me.


JAL

Sadrås

Kumma ye calt Jole¹ nœnæᵹen, skarr þe Schnëhæl² kumman. KummaÐe hirë, Gæ mej Vfœnter⁵ , eduon dene vase³ Huse mej: Uœkemsᵹt! KummaÐe hirë, sæjaÐe en tübbeÐe , ætaÐe en ðrūnkeÐe⁵: Is yë Vfam⁵ enjo. Haffe jous þë Uade, yë Bjroü, ent yë nœje Mælch üv Kœje⁴. Gæ, en þë vase Brie!

Notes:
1 - Jole - descendant from PGmc *jehwlą. No descendant from PGmc *wintruz exists in Sadrås. Another common name for winter in Sadrås is
Plenimordrer Lit. "Summer-killer".

2 - PGmc does not have a descendant for *sturmaz in Sadrås. The more productive suffix -häl (Lit. 'Hell') is used for wintry storms or sea-storms.

3 - vase - This is a loanword from a neighboring Con-ethnicity's language. While Sadrås does have a cognate wairrem, this means 'uncomfortably hot', 'hazy, hot & humid' or 'blazing hot', esp. with weather. Vase is more of an inviting, snuggly warm of a room, a bed, or blanket, or a partner, or pleasantly hot of food or drink.

4 - Kœje - Although this looks like it could be a descendant of PGmc *kūz , it is not. It is a loanword from another neighboring con-ethnicity 'cuy'.
It is used to describe a large, more at hippopotamus-sized caviomorph rodent (Cf. Josephoartigasia , Phoberomys) that has become a prominent herd-animal for hide, fur, meat and milk in my conworld Tirga.

5 - Vfœnter, Vfam - many Sadrås words with an original initial /fr/ cluster get reduced to a burring affricate /bβ/ or /bv/. These words are descendants of PGmc *frijōndz and *framjaną , respectively. A similar burring effect (though the /r/ is retained) can be observed in ðrūnkeÐe, from PGmc *drinkaną.

[Man in Space]

Notes:
1 - Jole - descendant from PGmc *jehwlą. No descendant from PGmc *wintruz exists in Sadrås. Another common name for winter in Sadrås is
Plenimordrer Lit. "Summer-killer".

2 - PGmc does not have a descendant for *sturmaz in Sadrås. The more productive suffix -häl (Lit. 'Hell') is used for wintry storms or sea-storms.

3 - vase - This is a loanword from a neighboring Con-ethnicity's language. While Sadrås does have a cognate wairrem, this means 'uncomfortably hot', 'hazy, hot & humid' or 'blazing hot', esp. with weather. Vase is more of an inviting, snuggly warm of a room, a bed, or blanket, or a partner, or pleasantly hot of food or drink.

4 - Kœje - Although this looks like it could be a descendant of PGmc *kūz , it is not. It is a loanword from another neighboring con-ethnicity 'cuy'.
It is used to describe a large, more at hippopotamus-sized caviomorph rodent (Cf. Josephoartigasia , Phoberomys) that has become a prominent herd-animal for hide, fur, meat and milk in my conworld Tirga.

5 - Vfœnter, Vfam - many Sadrås words with an original initial /fr/ cluster get reduced to a burring affricate /bβ/ or /bv/. These words are descendants of PGmc *frijōndz and *framjaną , respectively. A similar burring effect (though the /r/ is retained) can be observed in ðrūnkeÐe, from PGmc *drinkaną.

This is all plainly awesome.

[Lambuzhao]

Notes:
1 - Jole - descendant from PGmc *jehwlą. No descendant from PGmc *wintruz exists in Sadrås. Another common name for winter in Sadrås is
Plenimordrer Lit. "Summer-killer".

2 - PGmc does not have a descendant for *sturmaz in Sadrås. The more productive suffix -häl (Lit. 'Hell') is used for wintry storms or sea-storms.

3 - vase - This is a loanword from a neighboring Con-ethnicity's language. While Sadrås does have a cognate wairrem, this means 'uncomfortably hot', 'hazy, hot & humid' or 'blazing hot', esp. with weather. Vase is more of an inviting, snuggly warm of a room, a bed, or blanket, or a partner, or pleasantly hot of food or drink.

4 - Kœje - Although this looks like it could be a descendant of PGmc *kūz , it is not. It is a loanword from another neighboring con-ethnicity 'cuy'.
It is used to describe a large, more at hippopotamus-sized caviomorph rodent (Cf. Josephoartigasia , Phoberomys) that has become a prominent herd-animal for hide, fur, meat and milk in my conworld Tirga.

5 - Vfœnter, Vfam - many Sadrås words with an original initial /fr/ cluster get reduced to a burring affricate /bβ/ or /bv/. These words are descendants of PGmc *frijōndz and *framjaną , respectively. A similar burring effect (though the /r/ is retained) can be observed in ðrūnkeÐe, from PGmc *drinkaną.

This is all plainly awesome.

Xiur-iên de̋ncqpse̋rng psäoncq!

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How would you say «Thank You» in your conlang(s)?

[xxx]

Xiur-iên de̋ncqpse̋rng psäoncq!

aµM¨¦bµ
(me obliged by you...)
I'm obliged to you

[foxcatdog]

konnamaa ruka kamimini nar sua tin sua wiiwi ni ne
good-pl may.2 come-DES LAT 2.sg INST 2.sg work-NPST DAT 1.sg
“May good things come to you as the work you have done for me”

And in Old Amarin...

konnomaa tuka kamemeni nara a ken a wikiwe ni ne
good-pl guide come-DES LAT 2.sg INST 2.sg work-NPST DAT 1.sg

[hwhatting]

Xiur-iên de̋ncqpse̋rng psäoncq!

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How would you say «Thank You» in your conlang(s)?

Dolchunus (m) / dolchuna (f) im "I'm obliged"; pl. dolchunai / dolchunás semis

[jal]

Ful taym! Afta moles tu an af ye, mi ful taym finis don cata 5, Dem Rigl ina Dahk, a Obit Ya. Dis a cata ahcip pas olda oda wan cata-dem, an mi so api im a don! Yu ebl fayn im don de ya (PDF; dem pwaya cata sem ebl fayn don de ya).

Som kari:

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Wen Bilbo opn fi ay, im ponda wen im redi mek; kos it a sem blaknis, opn o cot. No man de atan atol. Pica fi fiya! Im in lisn non, luk non, an fil non pas ston a di gwon.
Ray slo im rays, an blayn toc ron pon an, an fut migl, op im ric tongl wol; oba no op im ya an no don im ya, im fayn don non: non atol, no sayn a ohk, no sayn a dwohf. Fi besa a spin, an im in se sahtm atol bo kohs dem di wok wen taym im fol sef. Im ges a gut im ebl mek so, an gwan kwol long wok, op sodm fi an icop ting im ya fil sem nof smol ring ota kol mekl, lay pon tongl floh. Dis taym ya ste swe-poyn a fi jop lif, oba im in se dis. Im sto ring ya ina fi pokit mos no tingk; fo sahtm im ya in sim fo specal yusful ray nu. Im in wok olip afta dis, oba im sit don pon kol gwon an golong geda tokl sorinis, wen long taym. Im pica imsef fway ok beli an ek insay fi gali de yah—kos im fil insay, it a ful taym fi kac som it; oba dis soso tahn im mo sori.

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“Yu as fehs wan”, im tok, kos im in neba nahf no taym fi tingk op rigl. So Golam sis:

Wo ting af rut dem luk no man,
Op, op im gwan
U pas pam tol,
Oba neba gwoh atol?

“Isi!” Bilbo tok. “Montan, mi sapos.”
“Im ges isi? Im af mac minu, mi lofniss! Wen lofnis as, an im in go ansa, minu its im, mi lofnisss. Wen im as minu, an minu in go ansa, minu mek a wo im won, no? Minu co im kohs ota ya, ye!”
“Olray!” Bilbo tok no deya fi rijek, an niyali pop fi mayn kos tingk op rigl-dem, dem me sef im fwom Golam it im.

Swi-ten way ohs pon ret mon,
Fo sta dem nyam,
Nes dem stam,
Nes dem stan don.

A dis a ol im ebl tingk op fi as—kos fi mayn a ponda bo nyaming olda taym. Dis swel u kway ol, an Golam se ansa ray sem yu se im.
“Dway-op kek, dway-op kek”, im sis. “Tis-dem! tis-dem! mi lofnisss; oba minu af soso sis a dem!”

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Dem ohk ol ray sodm. Dem in ebl luk im atol. Im di banis. Dem bol tu taym lot pas pwaya, oba af nof lis pleja.
“A wo pah im de?” dem bol.
“Wok bak opwa di pasic!” som ohk kol.
“Dis ya kohs!” som ohk kwim. “Dis da kohs!” oda ohk bol. “Gah di doh”, bol di kapn. Dem wisl son, ahma kwas, swoh-dem rakl, ohk-dem kohs an ron wan say o noda, tombl pon wanada an tahn nof angga. It a wikit boling, bosl, an rakas.
Bilbo af wikit fiya fo so, oba im a nof sen fi cende wo di apn, an kwol baksay barl a dwink fo dem ohk gah, an so kip way a dem ohk an con dem bom ina im, stam im det, o kac im a toc.
“Mi af ric di doh, mi af ric di doh!” im kip tok pon imsef, oba long taym pas, pwaya im deya sway. Nes it a wikit gem a blayn-man-kac. Ples ya ful op a ohk-dem ron ron, an sori likl obit ya doc lef an ray; nok don, don ohk im ya in fasm ina wo ting im bom; wok kliya pon an, an fut migl; jos pon taym kwol twin dem fut a di kapn; stan op, an ron twoh di doh.

Finally! After about two and a half years, I finally finished chapter 5, Riddles in the Dark, of The Hobbit. This chapter was more difficult than all the other chapter, and I'm so glad it's finished! You can find it here (PDF; the previous chapters can also be found here).

Some excerpts:
(see above)


JAL

[Znex]

I recently saw this video on Youtube, which compares the various modern Germanic languages using a somewhat contrived text, and I thought it would be fun to translate the text in Fake Germanic.

...

The cold winter is near, a snowstorm will come. Come in my warm house, my friend. Welcome! Come here, sing and dance, eat and drink. That is my plan. We have water, beer and milk fresh from the cow. Oh, and warm soup!

My attempt with Yorkish.
The kalde wintre is nere, ei sneestorm skal kom.
/θə kʰɔult wɪntr is niər | ə ˈsnistɔrm skə kʰɔm/

Kom i me warme hous, me win. Welkom! Kom here, syng o dans, et o drink. Thet ʒ'ha thenkt out.
/kʰɔm i mə warm hous mə wɪn | ˈwɛlkʰɔm kʰɔm hiər sɪŋk ɔ dans ɛt ɔ trɪŋk | θɛt hja θɛŋkt out/

We ha watten, ole o mielk farsk fra the kowe. Ah, o warme soppe!
/wi ha watən ol ɔ miəlk farsk frə θə kʰou | a ɔ warm sɔp/

[Travis B.]

I recently saw this video on Youtube, which compares the various modern Germanic languages using a somewhat contrived text, and I thought it would be fun to translate the text in Fake Germanic.

...

The cold winter is near, a snowstorm will come. Come in my warm house, my friend. Welcome! Come here, sing and dance, eat and drink. That is my plan. We have water, beer and milk fresh from the cow. Oh, and warm soup!

My attempt with Yorkish.
The kalde wintre is nere, ei sneestorm skal kom.
/θə kʰɔult wɪntr is niər | ə ˈsnistɔrm skə kʰɔm/

Kom i me warme hous, me win. Welkom! Kom here, syng o dans, et o drink. Thet ʒ'ha thenkt out.
/kʰɔm i mə warm hous mə wɪn | ˈwɛlkʰɔm kʰɔm hiər sɪŋk ɔ dans ɛt ɔ trɪŋk | θɛt hja θɛŋkt out/

We ha watten, ole o mielk farsk fra the kowe. Ah, o warme soppe!
/wi ha watən ol ɔ miəlk farsk frə θə kʰou | a ɔ warm sɔp/

Nice!

[quinterbeck]

My attempt with Yorkish.
The kalde wintre is nere, ei sneestorm skal kom.
/θə kʰɔult wɪntr is niər | ə ˈsnistɔrm skə kʰɔm/

Kom i me warme hous, me win. Welkom! Kom here, syng o dans, et o drink. Thet ʒ'ha thenkt out.
/kʰɔm i mə warm hous mə wɪn | ˈwɛlkʰɔm kʰɔm hiər sɪŋk ɔ dans ɛt ɔ trɪŋk | θɛt hja θɛŋkt out/

We ha watten, ole o mielk farsk fra the kowe. Ah, o warme soppe!
/wi ha watən ol ɔ miəlk farsk frə θə kʰou | a ɔ warm sɔp/

Eshire fei! Tan suine neshekajiru ien?
I like it! Have you written about it anywhere?

[äreo]

Tíl nerva nalta, borroglám su bérera.
cold winter near.PRES snow-storm 3S.REFL bring.FUT
The cold winter is near, a snowstorm will come.

Béretta ías théaris demnessis, com. Doëllas!
bring.IMP-2S.ACC 1S.POSS.DAT warm.DAT house.DAT friend good.DAT
Come in my warm house, my friend. Welcome!

Íxi béretta, lýri ne thamba, nama ne bisse. Sdos ea ctente.
here bring.IMP-2S.ACC sing.IMP and throw.IMP eat.IMP and drink.IMP such.DAT 1S.NOM aim
Come here, sing and dance, eat and drink. That is my plan.

Má tairem soë, eál, ne cari mossa nol. Ae, ne théar simma!
1P.NOM have.PRES.PL water beer and cow.GEN fresh milk oh and warm soup
We have water, beer and milk fresh from the cow. Oh, and warm soup!

[Znex]

Eshire fei! Tan suine neshekajiru ien?
I like it! Have you written about it anywhere?

Naie, barliʒ ha ʒe wont mi that syne the sainse maunthen. That's ei brauliʒ nye tong, end am ʒe thenken um hwar at skud leuthe.
/nei 'parli(x) ha j(ə) wɔnt mi (θ)at səin θə sens 'mɔːn(ə)θən | θats ə 'prɔːli nəi tʰɔŋk | ɛnt am jə 'θɛnkən ʊm ʍar ət skʊt ljuθ/
no only have 1SG work.PST.PART with 3NSG since DEF last month-PL | 3NSG=be.PRS.3 INDEF very new language | still be.PRS.1SG 1SG think-PRS.PART about how 3NSG should sound
No, I've only been working on it for the last few months. It's a fairly new language, I'm still thinking about how it should sound like.

[foxcatdog]

tu mamanana tu mai na ma turais na kilikiliisjuna kilimaa pensu paka na mai
GEN IMPF-study+LNK=know GEN 3.m LNK 1.m change-PERF LNK REDP-clean-PERF-Dpast-1.sg fish-pl INSTRUCTIVE help LNK 3.m
“My knowledge of him changed as i cleaned the fishes with his help”