Conlang fluency thread

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xxx wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 2:44 am
Imralu wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:28 pmDohi gož aa he pi kayak aaŋ.
aµa¹¦¶c¨x¨º¦HHp¦©aµe¹¦c¨¶
(me unable to name this way thing impossible to understand and giving me unable to use it...)
in 3SDL it's impossible to name and therefore use things impossible to understand...
Ha kqa mu hemoŋeb aišševegwež?
ha kqa mu hem-o-ŋeb aii=šev-e-gwež
Q NEG able be.topic-LK1-be.uttered NSPC.INAN=visible-LK2-use.mind's.eye
Can't you talk about imaginary things?
(Literally: Can't things seen in the mind's eye be spoken topics?)
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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Imralu wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:53 amHa kqa mu hemoŋeb aišševegwež?
aµa¦e¨·c¨e¨º¦Na¦c¨c¨¦xHY
(me speaking about action on thing unable to be acted this speaking unreal...)
yes, but it's necessarily a lie...
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Imralu wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:28 pm Dohi gož aa he pi kayak aaŋ.
do-hi gož aa | he pi kayak aa=ŋ
PST-CONT cogitate DEF.R2 | JUSS merely use.magic DEF.R2=1+2
I was thinking we'd just use magic.
Nonen irnim gen gumen oahmihanwaha?
Non-en
EXP-2s
irnim
think
gen
Q
gum-en
INST-2s
oahmih-anwa-ha
magic-type-what

What kind of magic are you thinking about using?
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quinterbeck wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:16 am
Imralu wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:28 pm Dohi gož aa he pi kayak aaŋ.
do-hi gož aa | he pi kayak aa=ŋ
PST-CONT cogitate DEF.R2 | JUSS merely use.magic DEF.R2=1+2
I was thinking we'd just use magic.
Nonen irnim gen gumen oahmihanwaha?
Non-en
EXP-2s
irnim
think
gen
Q
gum-en
INST-2s
oahmih-anwa-ha
magic-type-what

What kind of magic are you thinking about using?
Le luwiyuŋelis ii.
le l<uw><iy>-u-ŋ-e-lis ii
GER LOC<CAUS><INCEP>-DIST-2+1-LK2-air
Aircasting.
(Literally: It's putting air over there./It's making air be far away from you and me.)
xxx wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:00 am
Imralu wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:53 amHa kqa mu hemoŋeb aišševegwež?
aµa¦e¨·c¨e¨º¦Na¦c¨c¨¦xHY
(me speaking about action on thing unable to be acted this speaking unreal...)
yes, but it's necessarily a lie...
Kqaq ii sa men äggwež ool.
kqa-q ii | sa men ää=gwež oo=l
NEG-CTVZ DEF.R5 | if true SR=use.mind's.eye DEF.R3=2S
It's not, if you have actually imagined it.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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Imralu wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:41 amKqaq ii sa men äggwež ool.
c¨«p¨¦©xHYNc¨«e¨º§
(things given by spirit only, this things unreal...)
only imagination gives lies...
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xxx wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:42 am
Imralu wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:41 amKqaq ii sa men äggwež ool.
c¨«p¨¦©xHYNc¨«e¨º§
(things given by spirit only, this things unreal...)
only imagination gives lies...
Kqa le tsan ille ŋuweb hem išševegwež.
kqa le tsan ii=le ŋ<uw>eb | hem ii=šev-e-gwež
NEG GER seek.to.deceive DEF.R5=GER be.uttered<CAUS> | topic DEF.R5=visible-LK2-use.mind's.eye
Talking about what one imagines is not lying.

Gwež aa šev ihiŋŋawaŋ wettšanag.
gwež aa | šev ihii=ŋawaŋ wee=tšanag
use.mind's.eye DEF.R2 | visible NSPC.R5=cat EQ=sneeze
I imagine a sneezing cat.

Tsi kqa tsan aa.
tsi kqa tsan aa
REC NEG seek.to.deceive DEF.R2
I didn't just lie.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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Imralu wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 12:40 pmKqa le tsan ille ŋuweb hem išševegwež.
bµa¦Mc¨«c¨¦ºHHc¨«c¨¦
(you having to describe things not experienced and things experienced...)
tell us about lies and truth...
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xxx wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:42 am
Imralu wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:41 amKqaq ii sa men äggwež ool.
c¨«p¨¦©xHYNc¨«e¨º§
(things given by spirit only, this things unreal...)
only imagination gives lies...

(I could ask where your conlang comes from, then...but i think i'll just quote a famous person)



NALMA:
ʔe tannan mlat-a-mla.alsh -Dr. House.
[ʔe tan.nan mlat.a.mla.alS]

ʔe = Plural.
tannan = Falsehood, untruth.
Mlat-a-mla.alsh = All ones = every person.
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xxx wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 2:01 pm
Imralu wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 12:40 pmKqa le tsan ille ŋuweb hem išševegwež.
bµa¦Mc¨«c¨¦ºHHc¨«c¨¦
(you having to describe things not experienced and things experienced...)
tell us about lies and truth...
M'üü ševewež aii ševegwež aii.
m üü | šev-e-wež aii | šev-e-gwež aii
perceive NSPC.ANIM | visible-LK2-use.eyes NSPC.INAN | visible-LK2-use.mind's.eye NSPC.INAN
People experience things externally and internally.

Ha kqa mu ŋuweb oo hem iššem taig oo t'äggož oo?
ha kqa mu ŋ<uw>eb oo | hem ii=šem | taig oo | t ää=gož oo
Q NEG able be.uttered<CAUS> DEF.R3 | topic DEF.R5=inside | contain DEF.R3 | time SR=cogitate DEF.R3
Can't you talk about the things that you think about?
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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keenir wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:25 pm NALMA:
ʔe tannan mlat-a-mla.alsh -Dr. House.
[ʔe tan.nan mlat.a.mla.alS]

ʔe = Plural.
tannan = Falsehood, untruth.
Mlat-a-mla.alsh = All ones = every person.
He qiyiŋiliš iddalomaz.
he q<iy>iŋiliš ii=d-a-l-o-maz
JUSS English<INCEP> DEF.R5=DEM-MED-2S-LK1-meaning
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You should provide an English translation of that.

The meaning of a gloss might be obvious to you because you know how your language works.

keenir wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:25 pm(I could ask where your conlang comes from, then...but i think i'll just quote a famous person)
Das iggoženixxaxax.
das ii=gož-e(d)-nii=xaxax
origin DEF.R5=cogitate-tool-INAL=xxx
It comes from xxx's mind.

Dowa ba kiweq iŋŋuwebeinuud ki žuwel oo hem iddož ai ğiwušonuud
do-wa ba ki-we-q ii-ŋ<uw>eb-e{š/i}-nii=d | ki ž<uw>el oo | hem ii=dož ai ğ<iw>uš-o-nii=d
PST-to.PRES very a.little-UNC.QUANT-CTVZ DEF.R5=be.uttered<CAUS>-ABSTR-AL-DEM | a.little know<CAUS> DEF.R3 | topic DEF.R5=way LK2 speak<GDV>-LK1-AL=DEM
So far, he has told us very little of the ways of his language.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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Imralu wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:41 pmM'üü ševewež aii ševegwež aii.
db§d©¬d©§d¶ª­IIId©¬d©§ZIyd¶
(man talking about things experienced by other men and about things experienced by only brain of him...)
(a man can tell the truth (things experienced by other men) and lies (things experienced only by his thoughts...)
Imralu wrote: Dowa ba kiweq iŋŋuwebeinuud ki žuwel oo hem iddož ai ğiwušonuud
b¶b§Kb¸q©§y¶IZ
(me having named language of my mind only...)
I said its name/I defined it...
Imralu wrote: He qiyiŋiliš iddalomaz.
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Nai lu mba ngozye nga.
I’m at my parents’ place.

Nai ze mwe lwe.
I can’t sleep.

Nai dzele lo luna.
I hate being here.

Huzye ngai lwe lu vumba ndubwe. Nai lu hyulwe zyi.
My father is in the loungeroom. I’m in his bed.

… u ndu ya a ngwibwe gwe ngwiru
… under his underpants and socks.

… u ndu ya gyolya ba da u byoi de
… under a large painting of him.

… u ndu ya ndandu ye mbonemu u byoi nyo zyu nai gahu.
… under the weight of memories of my childhood.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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PÎUtÈヹ¼nvÜ»[mN¹y¹\‵»v½îÀavmx¹ÂÍNŠÎN¹y¹\tÈÃ
(unplease me father of two girl one going to now land of people of browness and one not transported by vehicule going to now my place...)
I'm not too cheerful this year, with one daughter going to spend Christmas in Africa and the other missing her train to see me...
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xxx wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:08 am(unplease me father of two girl one going to now land of people of browness and one not transported by vehicule going to now my place...)
I'm not too cheerful this year, with one daughter going to spend Christmas in Africa and the other missing her train to see me...
Nai zangye wo.
I hug you.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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(my smile future given by grasp of arms of man taking my heart this man now traveled by pain in breath protected by tissue hiding face...)
I'll be consoled by my wife as soon as she no longer has COVID 19...
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T'iwwikekwisimas ba ŋuŋuwe vuhaž aaz s'iddižim dža Qwiyuhog aunnuhežaŋotän.
t ii=wik-e-kwisimas | ba ŋu~ŋuwe v<uh>až aa=ž | s ii=d-i-ž-im | dža Q<w><iy><uh>og auu=[n+u+h+e+ž+a]-ŋ-o-tän
time DEF.R5=week-LK2-Christmas | very FREQ-again thunderstorm<EXPERIENCE> DEF.R4=1P | place DEF.R5=DEM-PROX-1S-PL | consequently Qog<PRF><EP><EXPERIENCE> NON.RANKED.SENTIENT=[0.5x1+0.5x4+0.5x2+0.5x2+0.5x4+0.5x1]-COLL-LK1-person

In the week of Christmas, we have had a lot of storms around here and seven people have been killed.
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Literally: The Christmas week is the time. We (excl.) again and again and again experience thunderstorms. These ones by me are the location. Seven people consequently meet Qog.

Qwihuwog (or Qwuhog, without the optional epenthetic segment), refers to people who have "met Qog", the god of masculinity, death and destruction. This is the typical way to refer to deaths due to natural disasters, although it can also be used to refer to any death.
T'ittalebokisiŋ važ uquu taz innehaŋoqawaq s'inniiž hežowutleŋ immilimitauheqalum.
t ii=tal-e-bokisiŋ | važ uquu | t-az ii=[n+e+h+a]-ŋ-o-qawaq | s ii=nii=ž | [h+e+ž+o+w+u+tl+e]-ŋ ii=milimitauh-e-qalum
time DEF.R5=day-LK2-Boxing | thunderstorm SPEC.R1 | time-degree DEF.R5=[0.5x1+0.5x2+0.5x2+0.5x1]-COLL-LK1-hour | place DEF.R5=INAL=1S | [0.5x2+0.5x64+0.5x4+0.5x16+0.5x16+0.5x4+0.5x64+0.5x2]-COLL DEF.R5-millimetre-R2-rain

On boxing day, there was a storm that went on for three hours at my place that brought 86 mm of rain.
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Literally: Boxing day is the time. Something (powerful) is a thunderstorm. Three hours is the duration. The millimetres of rain number 86.
Baq illa taz tom iddižos.
ba-q ii=la t-az | tom ää=s ii=d-i-ž-im
extreme-CTVZ DEF.R5=DEF time-degree | reference.point DEF.R5=DEM-PROX-1S-LK1-place

That's a very long time for around here.
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Literally: That duration is extreme. This place is the reference point.
Ŋuŋuwe diyagoŋ uu t'äzzod uu.
ŋu~ŋuwe d<iy>ag-oŋ uu | t ää=z-od uu
FREQ~again large<INCEP>-west DEF.R1 | time SR=locomote-east DEF.R1

It kept expanding to the west as it moved eastwards
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Literally: It (the powerful one) again and again became larger to the west. That it moves to the east is the time.
Wež aaž tsuhaž ižžuŋebaran t'illa važ.
wež aa=ž | ts<uh>až ii=žu-ŋ-o-b<ar>an | t ii=la važ
use.eye DEF.R2=1S | lightning<EXPERIENCE> DEF.R1=four-COLL-LK1-house<AUG> | time DEF.R5=DEF storm

I saw four buildings get hit by lightning in that storm.
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Literally: I use my eyes. Four buildings experience lightning. That thunderstorm is the time.
Wi t'iddiŋoqaš leg aa liyiž iqiggožuweŋoqesemes tak ikkaunisil hem uhuvvažodaž.
wi t ii=d-i-ŋ-o-qaš | leg aa | l<iy>-i-ž ii=[h+o+ž+u+w+e]-ŋ-o-qesemes | tak ii=kaunisil | hem uhuu=važ-o-daž
DEFOC time DEF.R5=DEM-PROX-2+1-LK1-year | receive DEF.R2 | LOC<INCEP>-PROX-1S SPEC.R5=[0.5x2+0.5x16+0.5x4+0.5x4+0.5x16+0.5x2]-COL-LK1-SMS | give DEF.R5=council | topic SPEC.R1=thunderstorm-LK1-dangerous

Out of the 22 SMS alerts about severe storms from the city council that I've received this year, ...
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Literally: Background information: This year is the time. I receive. 22 SMSes arrive at me. The council gives/emits. Dangerous thunderstorms are the topic.
To t'iddiŋowik liyiž innužaŋ
to t ii=d-i-ŋ-o-wik | l<iy>-i-ž ii=[n+u+ž+a]-ŋ
FOC time DEF.R5=DEM-PROX-2+1-LK1-week | LOC<INCEP>-PROX-1S SPEC.R5=[0.5x1+0.5x4+0.5x4+0.5x1]-COL

... five have come this week.
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Literally: The point is: This week is the time. Five arrive at me.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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Yawa t'iqqaš ai hebwa na nabwa todzitlukqesaviŋ.
yawa | t ii=qaš ai he-bwa na na-bwa [t+o+dz+i+tl+u+kq+e+s+a+v+i]-ŋ
hey | time DEF.R5=year LK2 two-set.of.hands one one-set.of.hands [0.5x8+0.5x512+0.5x32+0.5x256+0.5x64+0.5x128+0.5x128+0.5x64+0.5x256+0.5x32+0.5x512+0.5x8]-COLL

Hello from the year 2024.

Dwiyuwagadag aa.
d<w><iy><uw>agadag aa
music<PRF><EP><CAUS> DEF.R2

I've made some music.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = (non-)specific, A/ₐ = agent, E/ₑ = entity (person or thing)
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Imralu wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:25 amMy father is in the loungeroom. I’m in his bed.
Dis a nasti fada im mek yu de ina cambas kos im swayk yu an mayn ponis yu wen yu di ste cayl, ray? Mi fil pon yu :(.
This is the mean father that caused you to be in a bad state because he hit you and mentally abused you when you were a child right? I feel for you :(.
Imralu wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:20 amHello from the year 2024.
Api nyu yeh a 2024 (tu ten tu ten foh / tu tosm tu ten foh)!
Happy new year of 2024!
Imralu wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:20 amI've made some music.
Mi won im!
I like it!


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neshan kehek amalyú shun kabiya biKala
need-1s practice-INF Amal-ACC because achievement DAT-Kala
I need to work on Amal now that I have achieved much with Kala.
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masako wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:34 pm neshan kehek amalyú shun kabiya biKala
need-1s practice-INF Amal-ACC because achievement DAT-Kala
I need to work on Amal now that I have achieved much with Kala.
Bembu maag siwi lhibuq ni siwe fawetl na kheyi kube!
/bəᵐbu maːɣ siwi ɬibuʔ nisiwə fawət͡ɬ nakʰəji kubə/
1s=but NEG have.PFV knowledge you=have language ORD two NEW

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