Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Umm wut? Ejective sonorants? (I hope you meant glottalized sonorants.)
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka ha wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate ha eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate ha eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
the glottalisation wasn't specified by the source (wikipedia)
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Hmm… is this a real language, then? Which is it?
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Consonants
*m *n *ɲ
*mˀ *nˀ *ɲˀ
*p *t *c *k
*pʰ *tʰ *cʰ *kʰ
*p’ *t’ *c’ *k’
*ts *tʃ *tʂ
*ts *tʃ *tʂ
*ts’ *tʃ’ *tʂ’
*s *ʃ *ʂ *h
*s’ *ʃ’ *ʂ’
*w *ɾ *j
*wˀ *ɾˀ *jˀ
Short Vowels
*i *ɨ *u
*e *o
*a
Long Vowels
*i: *ɨ: *u:
*e: *o:
*a:
Devoiced Vowels
*i̊ *ɨ̊ *ů
*e̊ *o̊
*å
4 tones but falling and rising can only occur on long vowels with high and low occuring on any voiced vowel.
*m *n *ɲ
*mˀ *nˀ *ɲˀ
*p *t *c *k
*pʰ *tʰ *cʰ *kʰ
*p’ *t’ *c’ *k’
*ts *tʃ *tʂ
*ts *tʃ *tʂ
*ts’ *tʃ’ *tʂ’
*s *ʃ *ʂ *h
*s’ *ʃ’ *ʂ’
*w *ɾ *j
*wˀ *ɾˀ *jˀ
Short Vowels
*i *ɨ *u
*e *o
*a
Long Vowels
*i: *ɨ: *u:
*e: *o:
*a:
Devoiced Vowels
*i̊ *ɨ̊ *ů
*e̊ *o̊
*å
4 tones but falling and rising can only occur on long vowels with high and low occuring on any voiced vowel.
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Huamelultec
/p b t d tʲ k g ʔ/
/kʼ/
/ts tʃ/
/tsʼ tʃʼ/
/f s ɬ ʃ x/
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/
/m n nʲ/
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/
/w l lʲ j/
/ˀw ˀl/
/ɾ r/
/a e o i u/
/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/
There may be errors; O'Connor's grammar doesn't use IPA (or list /tʲ/) and the orthography doesn't distinguish /x h/. A vowel length contrast is written but claimed to be noncontrastive. Sequences of fricative and glottal stop contrast with glottalized fricatives.
According to Maddieson, palatalized alveolars are mostly predictable from environment, appearing adjacent to high vowels and before /j/.
/p b t d tʲ k g ʔ/
/kʼ/
/ts tʃ/
/tsʼ tʃʼ/
/f s ɬ ʃ x/
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/
/m n nʲ/
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/
/w l lʲ j/
/ˀw ˀl/
/ɾ r/
/a e o i u/
/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/
There may be errors; O'Connor's grammar doesn't use IPA (or list /tʲ/) and the orthography doesn't distinguish /x h/. A vowel length contrast is written but claimed to be noncontrastive. Sequences of fricative and glottal stop contrast with glottalized fricatives.
According to Maddieson, palatalized alveolars are mostly predictable from environment, appearing adjacent to high vowels and before /j/.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g>
/ts tʃ/ <j č>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <f s ś š h>
/m n nʲ/ <m n ni>
/w l lʲ j/ <(o)u l li (e)i>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o ē/ei ou> (<ei> after a palatal)
/Vʔ VCˀ/ <VV>, /#ʔV/ <aV>
/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/
Nioulei el benado hoeipa niouliepa pero laaua holaafa. Laauamoulei hoeipa časa tieeëpa. Hoeipa tiepa laauamoulei ouakaaei eenapaeinieeuaamiśčeniaaouaamane. Ośkodoui sa ośkodoui lapempe. Liniaaouamēliaa manne hoeipa tianmaeiniapa.
/ts tʃ/ <j č>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <f s ś š h>
/m n nʲ/ <m n ni>
/w l lʲ j/ <(o)u l li (e)i>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o ē/ei ou> (<ei> after a palatal)
/Vʔ VCˀ/ <VV>, /#ʔV/ <aV>
/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/
Nioulei el benado hoeipa niouliepa pero laaua holaafa. Laauamoulei hoeipa časa tieeëpa. Hoeipa tiepa laauamoulei ouakaaei eenapaeinieeuaamiśčeniaaouaamane. Ośkodoui sa ośkodoui lapempe. Liniaaouamēliaa manne hoeipa tianmaeiniapa.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/p b t d tʲ k g ʔ/ <p b t d th k g '>
/kʼ/ <gk>
/ts tʃ/ <ẑ ĵ>
/tsʼ tʃʼ/ <ŝ ĉ>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <v z x j h>
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/ <f s c q>
/m n nʲ/ <m n nh>
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/ <mp nt nth>
/w l lʲ j/ <w l lh y>
/ˀw ˀl/ <wf lx>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o i u>
/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/
Nhulhi el benado hoypa nhulhepa pero lawfa holafa. Lawfamulhi hoypa ĵaza the'epa. Hoypa thepa lawfamulhi wfakayc 'enapaynhewfampicĵenhawfampane. Oxkoduy za oxkoduy lapem-pe. Linhawfamilha' manne hoypa thanmaynhapa.
/kʼ/ <gk>
/ts tʃ/ <ẑ ĵ>
/tsʼ tʃʼ/ <ŝ ĉ>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <v z x j h>
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/ <f s c q>
/m n nʲ/ <m n nh>
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/ <mp nt nth>
/w l lʲ j/ <w l lh y>
/ˀw ˀl/ <wf lx>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o i u>
/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/
Nhulhi el benado hoypa nhulhepa pero lawfa holafa. Lawfamulhi hoypa ĵaza the'epa. Hoypa thepa lawfamulhi wfakayc 'enapaynhewfampicĵenhawfampane. Oxkoduy za oxkoduy lapem-pe. Linhawfamilha' manne hoypa thanmaynhapa.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Kkuñb ñvzxirf kvtañb kkuñf ñtmeaq sfañkqeanth.
Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq. Yvnmuq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Huamelultec
/p b t d tʲ k g ʔ/ <p b t d ty k g '>
/kʼ/ <k'>
/ts tʃ/ <z c>
/tsʼ tʃʼ/ <z' c'>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <f s lh x h>
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/ <f' s' lh' h'>
/m n nʲ/ <m n ny>
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/ <'m 'n 'ny>
/w l lʲ j/ <w l ly j>
/ˀw ˀl ˀj/ <'w 'l 'j>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o i u>
Omit the <y> adjacent to high vowels or before /j/.
Sequences of fricatives and glottal stops are separated with <->.
/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/
Nuli el benado hojpa nulepa pero la'wa holaf'a. La'wamuli hojpa casa tye'epa. Hojpa tyepa la'wamuli 'waka'j 'enapajne'wa'milhc'enya'wa'mane. Olhkoduj sa olhkoduj lapempe. Lina'wamila' manne hojpa tyanmajnapa.
/p b t d tʲ k g ʔ/ <p b t d ty k g '>
/kʼ/ <k'>
/ts tʃ/ <z c>
/tsʼ tʃʼ/ <z' c'>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <f s lh x h>
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/ <f' s' lh' h'>
/m n nʲ/ <m n ny>
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/ <'m 'n 'ny>
/w l lʲ j/ <w l ly j>
/ˀw ˀl ˀj/ <'w 'l 'j>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o i u>
Omit the <y> adjacent to high vowels or before /j/.
Sequences of fricatives and glottal stops are separated with <->.
/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/
Nuli el benado hojpa nulepa pero la'wa holaf'a. La'wamuli hojpa casa tye'epa. Hojpa tyepa la'wamuli 'waka'j 'enapajne'wa'milhc'enya'wa'mane. Olhkoduj sa olhkoduj lapempe. Lina'wamila' manne hojpa tyanmajnapa.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka ha wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate ha eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate ha eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Huamelultec
/p b t d tʲ k g ʔ/ <p b t d ć k g h~V́>
/kʼ/ <kh>
/ts tʃ/ <c č>
/tsʼ tʃʼ/ <z ž>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <f s š ś ch>
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/ <fh sh šh śh chh>
/m n nʲ/ <m n ń>
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/ <hm hn hń>
/w l lʲ j/ <w ł l j>
/ˀw ˀl/ <hw hl>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o i u>
ć ~ ciV
/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/
Niuli eł benado chojpa niulepa pero łáwa chołáfa. Łáwamuli chojpa časa ciehepa. Chojpa ciepa łáwamuli hwakáj henapajniéwámíščeniáwámane. Oškoduj sa oškoduj łapempe. Łiniáwamilá manne chojpa cianmajniapa.
/p b t d tʲ k g ʔ/ <p b t d ć k g h~V́>
/kʼ/ <kh>
/ts tʃ/ <c č>
/tsʼ tʃʼ/ <z ž>
/f s ɬ ʃ x/ <f s š ś ch>
/fˀ sˀ ɬˀ xˀ/ <fh sh šh śh chh>
/m n nʲ/ <m n ń>
/ˀm ˀn ˀnʲ/ <hm hn hń>
/w l lʲ j/ <w ł l j>
/ˀw ˀl/ <hw hl>
/ɾ r/ <r rr>
/a e o i u/ <a e o i u>
ć ~ ciV
/nʲulʲi el benado xojpa nʲulʲepa peɾo laˀwa xolafˀa || laˀwamulʲi xojpa tʃasa tʲeʔepa || xojpa tʲepa laˀwamulʲi ˀwakaˀj ʔenapajnʲeˀwaˀmiɬˀtʃenʲaˀwaˀmane || oɬkoduj sa oɬkoduj lapempe || linʲaˀwamilʲaʔ manne xojpa tʲanmajnʲapa/
Niuli eł benado chojpa niulepa pero łáwa chołáfa. Łáwamuli chojpa časa ciehepa. Chojpa ciepa łáwamuli hwakáj henapajniéwámíščeniáwámane. Oškoduj sa oškoduj łapempe. Łiniáwamilá manne chojpa cianmajniapa.
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
K'yoejdaq fohm q'ujdoe duaj teibohnggoen dlehq lucj.
Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq. Teijp'vq.
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Huamelultec's IRL orthography if the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth's colonisation of Trinidad and Tobago went somewhat betterNortaneous wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:39 pm Niuli eł benado chojpa niulepa pero łáwa chołáfa. Łáwamuli chojpa časa ciehepa. Chojpa ciepa łáwamuli hwakáj henapajniéwámíščeniáwámane. Oškoduj sa oškoduj łapempe. Łiniáwamilá manne chojpa cianmajniapa.