Fake Asian Lettering: Asian Languages Edition

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I recently came across this sign for a Japanese restaurant in Korea:
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The name is Hatane, which is clearly written in Latin letters. Below that, it says Hatane again in Korean, because this restaurant is in Korea. But they've chosen some Japanese kana that look like the hangeul letters they need.
You have あ, which stands in for ㅎ, then モ for ㅌ, and finally レ for ㄴ. The result is of course gibberish in Japanese, but I guess it gives the proper vibe.
If you look closely, you will see the name in proper Korean on the left hand side. Also, under the little cartoon highball the name is written in actual katakana.
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That’s kind of cool, seeing it done in a language other than English.
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Neat! Atomotore-X? It seems they basically gave up with ne; no kana provide a simple vertical stroke.
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Glass Half Baked wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:37 am You have あ, which stands in for ㅎ, then モ for ㅌ, and finally レ for ㄴ. The result is of course gibberish in Japanese, but I guess it gives the proper vibe.
I also se ト standing in forㅏ.

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Yeah, I forgot to mention the kana used to stand in for vowels.

Does anyone have any examples of this between other non-Latin/Cyrillic writing systems?
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Glass Half Baked wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:17 pmDoes anyone have any examples of this between other non-Latin/Cyrillic writing systems?
The other day, I saw in passing a youtube thumbnail that asked if Korean can be used to write Cantonese. My initial thought is "yes, though diacritics or something may be needed for the tones."
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Hangul has a bunch of seldom/never-used bits for writing Middle Chinese (e.g. extending ㅅ to "alveolar" ᄼ and "retroflex" ᄾ for a distinction that was never made in Korean and was being lost in Chinese even when the book was written) so you could probably come up with a delightfully cursed historical orthography for Cantonese.
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Well, this isn't actually a non-Latin script, so mea culpa if this is the wrong thread for it, but I thought this Latin-script Vietnamese forced into blocks to look vaguely like Han script was pretty neat:

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From this Reddit post, found on the wall of the poster's favorite Vietnamese restaurant.
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Wow, that rocks!
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WeepingElf wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 5:26 am Wow, that rocks!
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That is like if Latin-script Vietnamese and Hangul loved each other very much...
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Travis B. wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 11:07 am That is like if Latin-script Vietnamese and Hangul loved each other very much...
Yeah, plus an ornate Brahmic feel. Seriously cool.
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äreo wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:41 pm
Travis B. wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 11:07 am That is like if Latin-script Vietnamese and Hangul loved each other very much...
Yeah, plus an ornate Brahmic feel. Seriously cool.
Thai script definitely made that a threesome.
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T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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That was really cool! I’ve actually had similar ideas myself, but this one is executed extremely well.
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That Vietnamese example is indeed quite remarkable.

Along somewhat similar lines, when I was in Russian and Kazakhstan, I sometimes saw books written in Central Asian languages and/or books in Russian on Central Asian topics that used a cover font that made the Cyrillic lettering look like Arabic. I don’t know what the origins of this are, but it struck me as having an exoticizing/”Orientalizing” vibe.
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Glenn wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:43 pm Along somewhat similar lines, when I was in Russian and Kazakhstan, I sometimes saw books written in Central Asian languages and/or books in Russian on Central Asian topics that used a cover font that made the Cyrillic lettering look like Arabic. I don’t know what the origins of this are, but it struck me as having an exoticizing/”Orientalizing” vibe.
Interesting — you don’t have any samples, do you?

On the other hand, someone else linked me this image of an Iranian restaurant where the Arabic script is Latinised:

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(Source: https://x.com/yakabikaj/status/1429201660656504833)
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bradrn wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:27 pm
Glenn wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:43 pm Along somewhat similar lines, when I was in Russian and Kazakhstan, I sometimes saw books written in Central Asian languages and/or books in Russian on Central Asian topics that used a cover font that made the Cyrillic lettering look like Arabic. I don’t know what the origins of this are, but it struck me as having an exoticizing/”Orientalizing” vibe.
Interesting — you don’t have any samples, do you?
I had a harder time finding examples online than I expected, but this font is similar to what I saw.
On the other hand, someone else linked me this image of an Iranian restaurant where the Arabic script is Latinised:

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(Source: https://x.com/yakabikaj/status/1429201660656504833)
:o

That’s pretty remarkable!
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Glenn wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:36 pm
bradrn wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:27 pm On the other hand, someone else linked me this image of an Iranian restaurant where the Arabic script is Latinised:

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(Source: https://x.com/yakabikaj/status/1429201660656504833)
:o

That’s pretty remarkable!
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bradrn wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:27 pm On the other hand, someone else linked me this image of an Iranian restaurant where the Arabic script is Latinised:

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(Source: https://x.com/yakabikaj/status/1429201660656504833)
Somewhere deep in the recesses of the internet I'm sure I've seen this font or one very like it – it had a dedicated website and its creator was enthusiastic about pushing it out there – but I can't find it now.

I did find this similar idea (this one left to right), which I think I also saw on that particular trawl and may have been the same creator, but I can't access its source now.

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sasasha wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:16 am I did find this similar idea (this one left to right), which I think I also saw on that particular trawl and may have been the same creator, but I can't access its source now.
Ah, I actually recognise this one — it’s Ian James’s Bostani. (In particular, the first version thereof. The latest revision looks a bit different.)
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