Conlang fluency thread

[bradrn]

Based on everyone’s replies, I’ve decided to use a variation of 4:

/sik ᵐbas bal ᵑɡən faˈwət͡ɬ || məˈt͡sʰuɬ bəj suˈʔəɣ ⁿdəl/
Sik mbas bal ngen fawetl. Metshulh bey suqeg ndel.

/məˈtʰaŋ ʔaˈŋətʰ ˈɬiːsə bal || ⁿdil ˈdaːlan tsuˈʔəɬ ˈʔisɣa ʔəˈtɬaːɣ/
Methaŋ qaŋeth lhiise bal. Ndil daalan tsuqelh qisga qetlaag.

Thanks for the help everyone!

Ōno, ōno Q:a!
ōno, ōno Q-a
NEG, NEG q-ABS
No, not Q!

‘Q’ yaazhgnazhabeyen riʔaa.
/‘q’ jaːʒɡnaʒabejen riʔaː/
‘Q’-ABS 3s.ABS-1s.ERG-remove-PRES.IMPF-NEG INT
I’m not getting rid of ‘q’.

(To elaborate, /ʔ/ ⟨q⟩ has always been my favourite grapheme-phoneme assignment, if such a thing exists. Anyway, the alternatives aren’t much better, and you can’t use most of them if you want to stick to ASCII.)

Yuttottopk'a kolla udittong.
yuttottopk'-a kolla udi-tto-ng
phonology-ABS nice be-INTR-PRS
The phonology is nice.

Thank you! (Can’t say this in any of my conlangs yet.)

[quinterbeck]

Ma oi ad inaurweh duheri hou megdu eigna in neaweu ina, nen da reo hinemineon
I'm treating the isolation as an opportunity to grow out my facial hair, which I haven’t tried before

Adide maihner ermaihnelhun orya allona nihmoawaad, geo nonide megdu rug erhuhma ermeumri hama ina edaneureo
It's thin, but not as thin as I thought it would be, and it only grows on my chin and upper lip

Adide reo hauge, wadoi nona irea houhide
It's not that attractive, but I kind of like it

[masako]

It's not that attractive, but I kind of like it

ya tena'am ke poto nyatsane
You should show us a photo.

[Imralu]

T'a uttong ottūk!
t'-a ut-t-ong o-ttūk
3PL.INANIM-ABS AUX.PRF-INTR-PRS germinate-PST.PTCP
They have germinated!

P'a pöttüttöng p'ūssōng-mochapk'o.
p'-a pöttü-ttö-ng p'ūssōng-mochapk'o
3SG.INANIM-ABS go-INTR-PRS INT-slowly
They are developing really slowly.

Te! Ahe zoi nu jo xume hiiama leres enio.
Good! I did say that you have to be patient with plants.

Bue jue lubuenio nu iza tagi.
I've now made the terrarium I was planning.

It's not that attractive, but I kind of like it

ya tena'am ke poto nyatsane
You should show us a photo.

Ahe!
Yes!

[bradrn]

Bue jue lubuenio nu iza tagi.
I've now made the terrarium I was planning.

Yaazhgikwaayʔiih be?
/jaːʒɡikwaːjʔiːh be/
3s.ABS-1p.INCL.ERG-see-PRES.PFV-PERM Q

May we see it?

(Yem, goshbeek ‘terari’um’ yaayzo? Yaazhsiimopsoow meshwoozheyyakwaasoownemek ‘terari’um’ yaayzo, yaawshomin ang yaayniigbe yaayzo’aamen reeʔ.)
/jem | ɡoʃbeːk terari.um jaːjzo || jaːʒsiːmopsoːw meʃwoːʒejjakwaːsoːwnemek terari.um jaːjzo | jaːwʃomin aŋ jaːjniːgbe jaːjzo.aːmen reːʔ/

More: show

Yem,

also

goshbe-ek

what-ERG

‘terari’um’

terrarium

yaa-y-zo?

3s.ABS-3s.ERG-EQ

Yaa-zh-siimop-soow

3s.ABS-1s.ERG-think-PST.PFV

mesh=[woo-zhe-y-ya-kwaa-soow=nem-ek

C=2s.ABS-1s.DAT-3s.ERG-CAUS-see-PST.PFV=REL-ERG

‘terari’um’

terrarium

yaa-y-zo,

3s.ABS-3s.ERG-EQ

yaa-w-shom-in

3s.ABS-2s.ERG-create-NMLZ

ang

now

yaa-y-niigbe

3s.ABS-3s.ERG-cause

yaa-y-zo-aam-en

3s.ABS-3s.ABS-EQ-SPEC-NEF

reeʔ].

but

(Also, what is a terrarium? I thought that what you showed us earlier was a terrarium, but it can’t be if you’re making one now.)

[Imralu]

Bue jue lubuenio nu iza tagi.
I've now made the terrarium I was planning.

Yaazhgikwaayʔiih be?
/jaːʒɡikwaːjʔiːh be/
3s.ABS-1p.INCL.ERG-see-PRES.PFV-PERM Q

May we see it?

Ahe mue!
Yes, you can!

Tiia.
Here are some pictures.

Oto tiia xua ligki nxua zikinatia guni.
There are more pictures in the link in my signature.

Viriio.
Here's a video.

Oto viriio kuaiji zo jeho kuilakuaqa.
Here's another video if you're using your phone.

Tahes as aihuuaia lo baie lika xu aia. Euo kuhuxu xua tobi.
Air movement is important when the humidity is this high. There are two fans in the lid.

(Yem, goshbeek ‘terari’um’ yaayzo? Yaazhsiimopsoow meshwoozheyyakwaasoownemek ‘terari’um’ yaayzo, yaawshomin ang yaayniigbe yaayzo’aamen reeʔ.)
/jem | ɡoʃbeːk terari.um jaːjzo || jaːʒsiːmopsoːw meʃwoːʒejjakwaːsoːwnemek terari.um jaːjzo | jaːwʃomin aŋ jaːjniːgbe jaːjzo.aːmen reːʔ/

More: show

Yem,

also

goshbe-ek

what-ERG

‘terari’um’

terrarium

yaa-y-zo?

3s.ABS-3s.ERG-EQ

Yaa-zh-siimop-soow

3s.ABS-1s.ERG-think-PST.PFV

mesh=[woo-zhe-y-ya-kwaa-soow=nem-ek

C=2s.ABS-1s.DAT-3s.ERG-CAUS-see-PST.PFV=REL-ERG

‘terari’um’

terrarium

yaa-y-zo,

3s.ABS-3s.ERG-EQ

yaa-w-shom-in

3s.ABS-2s.ERG-create-NMLZ

ang

now

yaa-y-niigbe

3s.ABS-3s.ERG-cause

yaa-y-zo-aam-en

3s.ABS-3s.ABS-EQ-SPEC-NEF

reeʔ].

but

(Also, what is a terrarium? I thought that what you showed us earlier was a terrarium, but it can’t be if you’re making one now.)

A lubuenio ilubu za gkuajos enio xua luxa.
A lubuenio (≈ terrarium) is a lubu (closed container) which is for enio (plants) to be inside.

Since that's not very helpful, here's English: a terrarium is literally just a closed container for land-based life, as opposed to an aquarium, which is for water-based life. Both are types of vivarium (for any life), but often people say vivarium specifically to indicate that animals are kept inside (usually reptiles, amphibians, spiders etc.), although that seems to be the assumption if you say Terrarium in German and googling stuff is driving me crazy. A paludarium mixes land and water.

Aza lubuenio unu. Tuju. Mie uue zeio ihueva vemaloka guni.
I have other terrariums. Here's an example. But this new one is the most planned of mine.

[bradrn]

Bue jue lubuenio nu iza tagi.
I've now made the terrarium I was planning.

Yaazhgikwaayʔiih be?
/jaːʒɡikwaːjʔiːh be/
3s.ABS-1p.INCL.ERG-see-PRES.PFV-PERM Q

May we see it?

Ahe mue!
Yes, you can!

Tiia.
Here are some pictures.

Oto tiia xua ligki nxua zikinatia guni.
There are more pictures in the link in my signature.

Viriio.
Here's a video.

Oto viriio kuaiji zo jeho kuilakuaqa.
Here's another video if you're using your phone.

Tahes as aihuuaia lo baie lika xu aia. Euo kuhuxu xua tobi.
Air movement is important when the humidity is this high. There are two fans in the lid.

Theŋ tsek suqeg bal!
/tʰəŋ t͡sək suˈʔəɣ bal/
DEF.PLU that.VIS please 1s
Those are lovely!

(Yem, goshbeek ‘terari’um’ yaayzo? Yaazhsiimopsoow meshwoozheyyakwaasoownemek ‘terari’um’ yaayzo, yaawshomin ang yaayniigbe yaayzo’aamen reeʔ.)
/jem | ɡoʃbeːk terari.um jaːjzo || jaːʒsiːmopsoːw meʃwoːʒejjakwaːsoːwnemek terari.um jaːjzo | jaːwʃomin aŋ jaːjniːgbe jaːjzo.aːmen reːʔ/

More: show

Yem,

also

goshbe-ek

what-ERG

‘terari’um’

terrarium

yaa-y-zo?

3s.ABS-3s.ERG-EQ

Yaa-zh-siimop-soow

3s.ABS-1s.ERG-think-PST.PFV

mesh=[woo-zhe-y-ya-kwaa-soow=nem-ek

C=2s.ABS-1s.DAT-3s.ERG-CAUS-see-PST.PFV=REL-ERG

‘terari’um’

terrarium

yaa-y-zo,

3s.ABS-3s.ERG-EQ

yaa-w-shom-in

3s.ABS-2s.ERG-create-NMLZ

ang

now

yaa-y-niigbe

3s.ABS-3s.ERG-cause

yaa-y-zo-aam-en

3s.ABS-3s.ABS-EQ-SPEC-NEF

reeʔ].

but

(Also, what is a terrarium? I thought that what you showed us earlier was a terrarium, but it can’t be if you’re making one now.)

A lubuenio ilubu za gkuajos enio xua luxa.
A lubuenio (≈ terrarium) is a lubu (closed container) which is for enio (plants) to be inside.

Since that's not very helpful, here's English: a terrarium is literally just a closed container for land-based life, as opposed to an aquarium, which is for water-based life. Both are types of vivarium (for any life), but often people say vivarium specifically to indicate that animals are kept inside (usually reptiles, amphibians, spiders etc.), although that seems to be the assumption if you say Terrarium in German and googling stuff is driving me crazy. A paludarium mixes land and water.

Thanks! So, if that’s what a terrarium is, then would your greenhouse you showed us earlier also qualify as a terrarium?

(Given the current state of their grammars, I don’t even want to think about trying to translate that into either of my conlangs…)

[masako]

na isikukuan nye muhempa
I am very sad because of all the current events.

[quinterbeck]

na isikukuan nye muhempa
I am very sad because of all the current events.

Euna anid. Laa houh gamaaha ande!
Me too. O, that justice would come!

[Zju]

na isikukuan nye muhempa
I am very sad because of all the current events.

Euna anid. Laa houh gamaaha ande!
Me too. O, that justice would come!

Ъзора йемер оъц яаец яйъзъовъ.
unfortunately, happen-FUT.3.SG only if=someone undertake-3.SG.PRS.REFL
Unfortunately, it will only happen if someone undertakes it.

[masako]

asa'apikan huala
life-Africa-ACC be.important
Black Lives Matter.

[jal]

asa'apikan huala
life-Afrika-ACC be.important
Black Lives Matter.

Dem blak lif mata!
Black lives matter!


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[quinterbeck]

Ad naraida hoed moidud
Black lives matter

[Imralu]

Tahe ias ailau nelo.
[tàhé já ͜ s ͜ ài̯làú nèló]
important NOM.3P.NSPEC.INAN life black
Black lives matter.

Nizandi dwo i zwida.
[ˌnizandi ˈdwo i̯ ˈzwiɾa]
life black COP important^E
Black lives matter.

Tehi kua kue ivunu e zouas azuailia.Gaha ixu eni.
maybe should create NOM.1+2PL.ICS ACC.3S.NSPEC difficult translate | miss NOM.3P.DEF.INAN DAT.1S.ICS
Maybe we should make a translation challenge. I miss those.

[bradrn]

Tehi kua kue ivunu e zouas azuailia.Gaha ixu eni.
maybe should create NOM.1+2PL.ICS ACC.3S.NSPEC difficult translate | miss NOM.3P.DEF.INAN DAT.1S.ICS
Maybe we should make a translation challenge. I miss those.

Yaazhdiyee yem! (Yaazhshomsoowen, yaazhsiimop meshyaagireebem reeʔ.)
/jaːʒdijeː jem || jaːʒʃomsoːwen | jaːʒsiːmop meʃjaːɡireːbem reːʔ/
3s.ABS-1s.ERG-want also. 3s.ABS-1s.ERG-do-PST.PFV-NEW, 3s.ABS-1s.ERG-think C=3p.ABS-good but
I want one too! (I’ve never done them, but I think they’re good.)

[quinterbeck]

Tehi kua kue ivunu e zouas azuailia.Gaha ixu eni.
maybe should create NOM.1+2PL.ICS ACC.3S.NSPEC difficult translate | miss NOM.3P.DEF.INAN DAT.1S.ICS
Maybe we should make a translation challenge. I miss those.

Oi waina ireane oi miga houduhha!
SBJ STA-1s like-much SBJ ACT.2p-1s translate-something
I would love to do a translation challenge!

[jal]

Let's start with a random sentence from the Hobbit then:

As they sang the hobbit felt the love of beautiful things made by hands and by cunning and by magic moving through him, a fierce and a jealous love, the desire of the hearts of dwarves.
Wen dem sing, obit ya fil lof flo swu im, lof a byuful ting mek don an-dem, an don klebanis, an don majik; fiyas an ret ay lof, bahn insay dwohf kwason.
Gloss:
WHEN 3PL sing hobbit DEF feel love flow through 3 love OF beautiful thing create BY hand PL and BY skillful-NOM and BY magic fierce and red eye (= jealous) love burn inside dwarf heart



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[quinterbeck]

Let's start with a random sentence from the Hobbit then:

As they sang the hobbit felt the love of beautiful things made by hands and by cunning and by magic moving through him, a fierce and a jealous love, the desire of the hearts of dwarves.
Wen dem sing, obit ya fil lof flo swu im, lof a byuful ting mek don an-dem, an don klebanis, an don majik; fiyas an ret ay lof, bahn insay dwohf kwason.
Gloss:
WHEN 3PL sing hobbit DEF feel love flow through 3 love OF beautiful thing create BY hand PL and BY skillful-NOM and BY magic fierce and red eye (= jealous) love burn inside dwarf heart

Wedaina nihmoawaha allumeu diheun reo ene orohwe. Wan oi yea hinemide.
I was anticipating something longer, and without special words. But maybe I'll have a go at this.

[masako]

hina na nya nukutlom iyoman ma'e muyayek
I hadn't marked anyone as "foe" until today.

[jal]

I was anticipating something longer, and without special words. But maybe I'll have a go at this.

Mos man de ya nahf no mekop langwic im a nof bik fi tahn long rayting, so mi tingk mi sta pon smol wan :). An wo kayn a "specal woh-dem" yu min?
Most people here don't have a conlang big enough to translate long texts, so I thought I'd start with something smaller :). And what "special words" do you mean?


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