Natural languages and linguistics
Darren
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by Darren Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:16 pm
Karch wrote: ↑ Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:57 am
It's indeed Keapara (proper), which indeed mostly lacks <t>, having lost it unconditionally - there are a few words with <t> but they're either loans or have an unknown etymology. Circumflexes in this orthography mark preceding glottal stop, both on vowels and on w.
Thankfully my laziness in checking more obscure languages cancelled out Wikipedia's ignorance of the marginal status of /t/
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Indo troono, weeno, papawino, andu treemo. Tel dyewaano tekluti tpauno tel aŋkene weeno kumə marəno, tpol uŋkə weeno, ein ɨn dasweeno, dyekug əmoono. Aal nyəntuuno, tuləntloono. Dyen in wen besmyelo mepau simyaaro. Tro ɨn nasweeno dyutən kuno wesmyalo. Tel waidyin dyewen komə ŋkədyi wesmyelo, skuulyo tkeyo. Tpoindlyabəgəloko.
I think there's a 50/50 chance Nort will get this on his first guess
bradrn
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by bradrn Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:21 pm
Darren wrote: ↑ Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:16 pm
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Indo troono, weeno, papawino, andu treemo. Tel dyewaano tekluti tpauno tel aŋkene weeno kumə marəno, tpol uŋkə weeno, ein ɨn dasweeno, dyekug əmoono. Aal nyəntuuno, tuləntloono. Dyen in wen besmyelo mepau simyaaro. Tro ɨn nasweeno dyutən kuno wesmyalo. Tel waidyin dyewen komə ŋkədyi wesmyelo, skuulyo tkeyo. Tpoindlyabəgəloko.
I think there's a 50/50 chance Nort will get this on his first guess
Chadic?
Darren
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by Darren Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:43 pm
bradrn wrote: ↑ Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:21 pm Darren wrote: ↑ Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:16 pm
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Indo troono, weeno, papawino, andu treemo. Tel dyewaano tekluti tpauno tel aŋkene weeno kumə marəno, tpol uŋkə weeno, ein ɨn dasweeno, dyekug əmoono. Aal nyəntuuno, tuləntloono. Dyen in wen besmyelo mepau simyaaro. Tro ɨn nasweeno dyutən kuno wesmyalo. Tel waidyin dyewen komə ŋkədyi wesmyelo, skuulyo tkeyo. Tpoindlyabəgəloko.
I think there's a 50/50 chance Nort will get this on his first guess
Chadic?
nope
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:34 pm
Not a clue. It's not Sino-Tibetan, is it?
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
bradrn
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by bradrn Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:35 pm
This is incredible. You managed to baffle Nort!
bradrn
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by bradrn Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:36 pm
That being said, my next guess is Papuan.
Karch
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by Karch Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:30 am
Keuw.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Darren
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by Darren Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:38 am
Karch wrote: ↑ Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:30 am Keuw.
Correct! How did you know?
Karch
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by Karch Mon Oct 21, 2024 12:02 pm
Darren wrote: ↑ Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:38 am Correct! How did you know?
I've read the only paper there is on Keuw like 20 times like 2 years ago. It's an extremely interesting language, but sadly also extremely underdescribed.
Anyway, here's a new sample:
Ijíbu ayamane khege wuji me bati hruñga he ‘‘imuñ ci ameya wujida,’’ kaja me angesata liba etoñwe ecolada ijíbu sona ci simbra ma nela. Aya ci ekroya ne thombra he tapume loprali eñkolo wuji, poñ lo wuji, aya ci elobra he amruhru wuji hrunga. Aya ci angesa he añko figa lawuji, ijibu aya ci thoga he maci wuji. Aya ci acanu ma he andikru euñ angoga, aya hone aya ci thoga bi me era a inunu ho randuda. Aya ci eñlona he innyi longa wuji tando hega da.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
fusijui
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by fusijui Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:07 pm
Assamese, to someone who wouldn't know Assamese if it were the last language in the galaxy. Well, something in that Eastern-Eastern IA branch maybe?
Raholeun
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by Raholeun Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:07 am
Is it spoken in a country where Spanish is the majority language?
Darren
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by Darren Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:30 am
Keuw is absolutely beautiful. I suspect it may be a Lakes Plain language at heart.
Karch
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by Karch Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:20 am
fusijui wrote: ↑ Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:07 pm
Well, something in that Eastern-Eastern IA branch maybe?
It's not Indo-Aryan.
Darren wrote: ↑ Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:30 am
Is it Asian?
It is spoken in Asia, though.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Nortaneous
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by Nortaneous Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:51 am
Is it primarily spoken on the Asian mainland?
Duaj teibohnggoe kyoe' quaqtoeq lucj lhaj k'yoejdej noeyn tucj.
Karch
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by Karch Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:54 am
Nortaneous wrote: ↑ Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:51 am
Is it primarily spoken on the Asian mainland?
Yes.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
Travis B.
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by Travis B. Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:18 am
Is it an Austronesian language?
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Glass Half Baked
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by Glass Half Baked Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:13 pm
I think I see where Travis is going. Superficially this does look like Cham. But I don't think that's it.
Karch
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by Karch Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:01 am
Travis B. wrote: ↑ Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:18 am
Is it an Austronesian language?
No.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
bradrn
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by bradrn Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:21 am
Sino-Tibetan?
Karch
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by Karch Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:45 am
bradrn wrote: ↑ Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:21 am Sino-Tibetan?
No.
Zpaf kkuñb ñvneahttiñ wqxirftvn meof ñfañhsit.
