Language Practice (Help your fluency)

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Imralu wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:23 am Kei tēhea tāone koe e noho ana?
Which city do you live in?

Ko tāu mahi te whakaako i te reo Ingarihi?
Are you teaching English for work?
อ่ยูที่เหมือนเชียงใหม่น่ะ
I'm in Chiang Mai

ไม่ใช่! มีวีซ่าED ดังนั้นแค่เรียมได้
No, I have the ED visa (education), so I can just study
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quinterbeck wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:42 am อ่ยูที่เหมือนเชียงใหม่น่ะ
I'm in Chiang Mai

ไม่ใช่! มีวีซ่าED ดังนั้นแค่เรียมได้
No, I have the ED visa (education), so I can just study
Kāore he moni e matea nā e koe ki te ora?
Don't you need money to live?

He iti rawa rānei nga utu i konā, e kore ai he nui o te moni e matea e koe?
Are the prices there so low that you don't need a lot of money?
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Ik kann ok öven! Ik heff nich bemerkt, dat de Thread aktualisiert worrn harr.
I can practise too! I didn't realise that the thread had been updated.

Ik wünsch, ik kunn ümsüns studieren (un Medikamenten ümsüns opschreven warrn, wat dat bedraapt).
I wish I could study for nothing (and get prescribed medication for nothing, for that matter).
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EDIT: Removed conlang, thought this was a different thread :D.


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Znex wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 6:12 am Ik kann ok öven! Ik heff nich bemerkt, dat de Thread aktualisiert worrn harr.
I can practise too! I didn't realise that the thread had been updated.

Ik wünsch, ik kunn ümsüns studieren (un Medikamenten ümsüns opschreven warrn, wat dat bedraapt).
I wish I could study for nothing (and get prescribed medication for nothing, for that matter).
Ist das Platt?
Is that Low German?
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Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Travis B. wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 3:39 pmIst das Platt?
Is that Low German?
Jo, so twischen de Skandinavischespraken för miene Jorkischespraake studeren, un miene Famieljengeschicht söken, ik dache, dat ik versöken wull, en beten von dat Platt to lernen.
Yes, so between studying the Scandinavian languages for my Yorkish language, and looking up my family history, I thought I might try and learn a bit of (Northern) Low German.

(Continental North Germanic was influenced pretty heavily by Middle Low German, and a good number of my ancestors hail from Lower Saxony and Schleswig-Holstein.)
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Znex wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:02 am
Travis B. wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 3:39 pmIst das Platt?
Is that Low German?
Jo, so twischen de Skandinavischespraken för miene Jorkischespraake studeren, un miene Famieljengeschicht söken, ik dache, dat ik versöken wull, en beten von dat Platt to lernen.
Yes, so between studying the Scandinavian languages for my Yorkish language, and looking up my family history, I thought I might try and learn a bit of (Northern) Low German.

(Continental North Germanic was influenced pretty heavily by Middle Low German, and a good number of my ancestors hail from Lower Saxony and Schleswig-Holstein.)
Muine Greoteldern hebbt eok Platt gekürt - Lippsk Platt, met merkwördige Diphthongen. Os in "Muin Hius is kloen, nit greot."
My grandparents also spoke Lows German - Lippe Low German, with strange diphthongs. As in "My house is small, not big."
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Meine deutschen Vorfahren sprachen wahrscheinlich Platt, da sie aus Pommern stammten.
My German ancestors probably spoke Platt, as they came from Pomerania.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Sa pu moyang bicara bahasa Missingsch dan sa pu nenek belajar bahasa Plattdütsch sedikit dari de pu teman SD.
My great-grandmother spoke Missingsch and my grandmother learned a bit of Plattdütsch from her friends in primary school.

Platt Pommern beda jahu dengan dialek Plattdütsch yang lain, to?
Pommeranian Platt is very different from other Plattdütsch dialects, right?
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Je vois que cet fil a été revécu !
/ʒə vwa‿k sɛ fil a ete ʁɛveky/
I see that this thread has been revived!

J’apprends le français.
/ʒ‿apʁɑ̃‿l fʁɑ̃sɛ/
I am learning French.

J’inclus la prononciation car je lutte encore avec l’orthographie.
/ʒ‿œ̃kly la pʁonɔ̃siasjɔ̃ caʁ ʒə lyt ɑ̃kɔʁ avɛk l‿ɔʁtɔɡʁafi/
I am including the pronunciation as I still struggle with the orthography.
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bradrn wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 5:52 pm J’inclus la prononciation car je lutte encore avec l’orthographie.
/ʒ‿ɛ̃kly la pʁonɔ̃siasjɔ̃ caʁ ʒə lyt ɑ̃kɔʁ avɛk l‿ɔʁtɔɡʁafi/
I am including the pronunciation as I still struggle with the orthography.
Pour moi, l'orthographe n'est jamais une problème. C'est presque complètement régulière, même si c'est assez compliquée. Il y a (généralement) une correspondence biunivoque dès la forme orthographe à la prononciation. C'est la liaison qui est peu intuitive.
For me, (French) spelling has never been a problem. It's almost completely regular, even though it's fairly complicated. There's generally a one-to-one correspondence from the spelling to the pronunciation. It's liaison which is unintuitive (for me at least).

Although to be fair I mostly ignore the difference between /e ø o/ and /ɛ œ ɔ/, and between /ɑ̃/ and /ɔ̃/, so maybe I'm not so good after all

Il faut que je pratique le français en plus. Je l'étudiais pour neuf années à l'école, mais ça c'est finie il y a deux ans, et maintenant je commence à perdre de la vocabulaire. Mais aujourd'hui j'ai appris un nouveau mot – "biunivoque".
I should practice my French more. I studied it four nine years at school, but that finished two years ago and now I'm starting to lose vocabulary. But I've learnt a new word today - biunivoque "one-to-one".

J'étudiais le français louisianais pour une dissertation pendant l'année terminale, mais j'ai oublié bien plus de ça que du français standard.
I studied Louisiana French too for an essay during year 12, but I've forgotten even more of that than than of normal French.


(Si je pouvais corriger ton français, il faut dire "ce fil" /sə fil/ en lieu de "cet fil" /sɛ fil/. On n'utilise "cet" qu'avant un mot qui commence avec une voyelle)
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Darren wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 1:08 am Although to be fair I mostly ignore the difference between /e ø o/ and /ɛ œ ɔ/, and between /ɑ̃/ and /ɔ̃/, so maybe I'm not so good after all
La liaison aussi c’est difficile pour moi.
/la ljɛzɔ̃n‿osi sɛ difisil puʁ mwa/
Also, liaison is difficult for me.
(Si je pouvais corriger ton français, il faut dire "ce fil" /sə fil/ en lieu de "cet fil" /sɛ fil/. On n'utilise "cet" qu'avant un mot qui commence avec une voyelle)
Ah, merci ! J’ai oublié qu’il y a tous les deux « ce » et « cet ».
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AwfullyAmateur wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:05 pm Le francais est difficile, mais le j'aime.
C’est un peu difficile, oui ! J’ai envisagé de créé un fil pour le français, comme ce que pour l’allemand, mais j’en ai pas trouvé le temps.

/sɛt‿ɛ̃ pø difisil, wi! j‿ɛ ɑ̃vizaʒe‿d cʁe.e ɛ̃ fil puʁ lə fʁɑ̃sɛ, cɔm s‿kə puʁ l‿almɑ, mɛ ʒ‿ɑ̃ e pa tʁuve lə tɑ̃./

It is a bit difficult, yes! I’ve thought about creating a thread for French, like that for German, but haven’t gotten around to it yet.
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Je crois qu'il est plus facile quand on il étudie plus.

I think it's easier when when you study enough! :)
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Es gibt Sprecher vom Französich hier, oder? Können Sie vielleicht ihn für Hilfe fragen, wenn Sie Ihre Französich mehr üben wollen?¹

Aren't there French speakers² here? Maybe you could ask them for help, if you want to practise your French more.

¹ I have almost certainly made mistakes here. And the register feels contradictory.
² I have a feeling this should be a compound noun, Französichssprecher?
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AwfullyAmateur wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:20 pm Je crois qu'il est plus facile quand on il étudie plus.

I think it's easier when when you study enough! :)
Note: plus is ‘more’. For ‘enough’ you want assez (I think).
Lērisama wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:32 am Es gibt Sprecher vom Französich hier, oder? Können Sie vielleicht ihn für Hilfe fragen, wenn Sie Ihre Französich mehr üben wollen?¹

Aren't there French speakers² here? Maybe you could ask them for help, if you want to practise your French more.
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Je peux parler le français ... ou bien, je pouvais le parler au fin de l'école, mais maintenant j'ai un manque de pratique. La grammaire était toujours mon point fort, mais maintenant même ça m'échappe quelquefois.

I can speak French, or at least I could when I finished school, now I don't practice enough. Grammar was always my forte but now I'm beginning to lose that too.
bradrn wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 5:46 pm C’est un peu difficile, oui ! J’ai envisagé de créé un fil pour le français, comme ce que pour l’allemand, mais j’en ai pas trouvé le temps.

/sɛt‿ɛ̃ pø difisil, wi! j‿ɛ ɑ̃vizaʒe‿d cʁe.e ɛ̃ fil puʁ lə fʁɑ̃sɛ, cɔm s‿kə puʁ l‿almɑ, mɛ ʒ‿ɑ̃ e pa tʁuve lə tɑ̃./

It is a bit difficult, yes! I’ve thought about creating a thread for French, like that for German, but haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Tu veux que nous corrigeons les petites fautes dans ton français ?
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Darren wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:23 am
bradrn wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 5:46 pm C’est un peu difficile, oui ! J’ai envisagé de créé un fil pour le français, comme ce que pour l’allemand, mais j’en ai pas trouvé le temps.

/sɛt‿ɛ̃ pø difisil, wi! j‿ɛ ɑ̃vizaʒe‿d cʁe.e ɛ̃ fil puʁ lə fʁɑ̃sɛ, cɔm s‿kə puʁ l‿almɑ, mɛ ʒ‿ɑ̃ e pa tʁuve lə tɑ̃./

It is a bit difficult, yes! I’ve thought about creating a thread for French, like that for German, but haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Tu veux que nous corrigeons les petites fautes dans ton français ?
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Lērisama wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:32 am Es gibt Sprecher vom Französich hier, oder? Können Sie vielleicht ihn für Hilfe fragen, wenn Sie Ihre Französich mehr üben wollen?¹

Aren't there French speakers² here? Maybe you could ask them for help, if you want to practise your French more.

¹ I have almost certainly made mistakes here. And the register feels contradictory.
² I have a feeling this should be a compound noun, Französichssprecher?
Französichssprecher or Sprecher des Französischen. Also, I think, könnten and Ihr Französisch (though Du is generally more common on internet forums).
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bradrn wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:26 amBien sûr, s’il te plait !
Prends tout ça avec des pincettes ; je ne suis pas locuteur natif, et par le loi de Muphry je sais qu'il y aurait des fautes dans ce qui suit.
Quand tu as dit "j'ai envisagé de créé un fil", ça devait être "créer", mais je suis sûr que tu sais ça, ce n'est qu'un typo (il y a quatre cents moyens pour écrire /e/ en français et à fois on choisit l'erroné à cause de penser la phrase comme quelque chose parlée non écrite). La construction "ce que pour l'allemand" n'est pas correcte; je pense qu'il devrait être "celui pour l'allemand" ; ce que doit être suivi avec une phrase verbale dont ce que fait l'objet (alors "ce que l'on a pour l'allemand" est bon).


Take all of this with a grain of salt [an idiom I had to look up]; I'm not a native speaker, and by Muphry's law there's bound to be some mistakes in my own reply anyway. When you said "j'ai envisagé de créé un fil" it should of been "créer", but I'm sure you know that, it's just a typo (there's lots of ways to write /e/ in French and you (well, I at least) tend to think phrases as spoken rather than written and then the words come out how they want). The construction "ce que pour l'allemand" though is wrong; I think it should be "celui pour l'allemand" [I was never too sure on celui~celle~ceux~celles constructions though]; "ce que" has to be followed by a verbal phrase that it's the object of, so "ce que l'on a pour l'allemand" [that which we have for German] is all good.
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